Ep. 05 | The COVID Vaccine Backlash: Chantal Kelly's Fight for Truth
EPISODE TRANSCRIPT
Anonymous: [00:00:00] Proceed with caution.
Hollie Wild: Welcome to Controversial as Fuck.
We have a legend here today. We actually met, this is Chantelle Kelly everybody, we actually met recently via social media and it was such a random Introduction that we had, and we realized that we had some similarities with, we both are ex police officers, both interested in similar sort of topics. And we had some conversations and I got very, very intrigued by Chantelle's.
Story. And so I've asked her to come on today and we're just going to have a chat. I have no questions planned. This is a first. I have no prepared questions. This is just like [00:01:00] two chicks sitting in a cafe, having a down to earth conversation, and you're a fly on the wall and you're just listening in right now.
So I really hope you enjoyed this conversation. Chantelle. Let's start with, God, where do we start with this? Hey, first of all, welcome. How are you?
Chantelle Kelly: Yeah, I'm great, Holly. Thank you very much for inviting me on to your lovely podcast that stood out when, when you launched it this last week, was it? Yeah, last week.
How exciting.
Hollie Wild: I know it's been a bit of a whirlwind, lots of controversial topics, lots of discussions have been had. And I would definitely say your story that we're about to dive into is definitely controversial for sure. You wouldn't think it would be once we dive into it, but it's definitely is controversial.
And let's just start. Cause everyone's like, who the crap are you talking to and what are you discussing? Let's start with. Who you are [00:02:00] and what has led you to want to even talk about this with me today being essentially vaccine injured during COVID. Let's just go there. Let's talk about it. Tell me all about you and what led you to that point.
Chantelle Kelly: The big scary topic. Well, I saw your launch of your podcast and my story fit perfectly with that. And I haven't really spoken on COVID. Like, on podcasts or anything, I've done one for a friend. And when I saw your podcast, it really triggered something inside of me to start speaking about it. Not from a place of, you know, the controversy or topic as such, but, you know, how So many people dim their light and they don't step into their power and they're too scared to say their opinion and tell their stories because of fear of rejection, not acceptance, they're going against the status quo, um, all the criticisms that can come from that and the [00:03:00] uncomfortable feelings.
So that is something I'm creating in coaching programs at the moment. So I thought that it was definitely time to walk the walk, I guess.
Anonymous: Yeah. Um,
Chantelle Kelly: yeah, and I loved what you were doing, so here we are.
Hollie Wild: Here we are. I'm going to take you back now. There may be people listening that are like, yeah, I remember this story because it did become public.
I am one of those people that somehow was somewhere living under a rock and do not recall your story. Don't recall seeing it in the media. I honestly don't know how I missed it. I'd love for you to tell us, obviously I mentioned you're an ex police officer. What happened? What, what's your story?
Chantelle Kelly: Just yeah.
Well, in August, 2021. I think that's when it all started. So the police, um, you know, we got the opportunity to have the vaccines before the majority [00:04:00] of the public, so I think it went to, you know, the senior citizens first, and then flowed out to healthcare workers, police, um, nurses, all those types of people.
And there was emails going around within the police saying that we had to get the vaccine, it wasn't optional, and if we didn't then we would lose our positions, especially in specialist spots. And I'd spent the majority of my career in a specialist spot, working my way up and, you know, had kind of this really great position that I didn't want to lose.
But at the same time, didn't want to have the vaccine because I'd never had a flu vaccine before. So, um, that was concerning in the fact that there wasn't any information around it and for me, uh, I was 37 when I had it and I hadn't had children and there was no research on long term fertility or effects on babies, and that was [00:05:00] my major concern at that point.
Anonymous: Yeah.
Chantelle Kelly: Um, the day that I did go to the doctor, so I was at work on duty and we got time off to go to the doctors, there were so many police officers in the doctor's surgery that day, um, and Yeah, so anyway, I was very uncomfortable about it. I spoke to the doctor, we even had a conversation. She goes, I am very concerned about giving this to you and to other people if you're worried about it.
And I told her that we got told we had to have it, and she goes, well, that's not very good. And so this is before the actual mandates happened. And um, she goes, well, I'm happy to write you a letter. She goes, but what does that mean for your job? And I said, I don't know. And I really wasn't in the energetic space to just even push back and challenge [00:06:00] what was going on.
So I had it. And then within 10 minutes, I had an extreme allergic reaction, so I didn't actually leave the doctor's surgery. I had high fevers, rashes, vomiting, flu like symptoms straight away. Um, they gave me Uh, treated me for the allergies and everything, and then eventually let me go home that night, but I was so sick.
Fever, like the fever was above 40, and I felt horrible, and then for three weeks after that, every single day I got worse and worse and worse and worse. And, um, the worst part is, I wasn't allowed in the doctors, because I had flu like symptoms as well, and high fever. So, no one was even looking at me, and I had to go to court, [00:07:00] um, so I hadn't been to work at three, for three weeks, and so I turned up because I had to go to court.
But the night before, I felt very odd, like my eyes were weird and I was rubbing my eyes and I said to my boyfriend at the time, I gotta go to bed, um, I don't feel too good, I'm really tired. The next morning I woke up to drive to work and one eye wouldn't open and the other one wouldn't close. And I thought I was just having more allergic reactions.
So I took an allergy pill, drove to work, and my colleague and my very good friend, we were waiting to go to court and be called in. Um, you know, you can wait a long time. And she goes, are you okay? I was like, oh, you know, I don't feel the best. And she goes, cause your face is drooping.
Anonymous: And,
Chantelle Kelly: you know, we're in the place you're trained for first aid and noticing these things, but my mind, I'm like, [00:08:00] I'm 37, like, why is my face drooping?
And we kind of had an argument about whether or not I was going to the emergency room and I lost. So she drove me to the emergency room and I walked in and the nurse, it was at the time they were taking your temperature before you could even go into the hospital. And she goes, can you. Can you poke your tongue out?
And I thought she was joking. And then, yeah, within like five minutes, I had people swarming around me. And within that short time, I couldn't lift myself up out of the chair because my left side I had gone all week and didn't have any strength in it. I went through testing, I didn't get any results, and I stayed in hospital overnight, and I, that morning, I got up to have a shower, and I now know what I experienced was a stroke in the shower, [00:09:00] and I got transferred to the stroke ward that afternoon.
And I found out that the main artery to my brain on my left side had ruptured, and because of that I'd suffered a stroke.
Hollie Wild: Holy shitballs, Chantelle. What? That's a lot. Wow. Um, wowsers. So what was the reaction of, like, your superiors, the police? What, what was their reaction?
Chantelle Kelly: Well, at this point Um, I had told my sergeant, and my immediate team was really caring and messaging and visiting and everything, and then I got a call from health and welfare, they call it.
Hollie Wild: Yeah.
Chantelle Kelly: And, I don't know who I was speaking to, but he goes, I'm just calling because you've exceeded your sick leave. [00:10:00]
Anonymous: You're kidding me.
Chantelle Kelly: No, no, no, no. And I was like, do you know what has happened to me? And he had no idea. So I told him, and you know what his response was? Would you like me to send the chaplain?
Hollie Wild: Oh my God. I think this was, okay, there's so many avenues we could take this conversation. And I think, and we'll go further into it, but one of the things, and we discussed this. And privately yesterday when we were chatting to each other, but we both believe in choice, right? And you can go further into this for yourself.
I don't want to speak for you at all, but one of my biggest personal gripes during COVID was the fact that you, if you questioned The efficacy of vaccines, or if you questioned anything to do with the mandates, just anything at all, you were instantly labeled as like a granny killer, essentially, like you're just going to kill all the elderly.
You were [00:11:00] labeled as, um, you know, basically an enemy of the state or a danger to society. You were very selfish. So like, there was a lot of pressure and listen, we. Both are radically self responsible people. We take responsibility for our own decisions in life. And, you know, we're not acting like we're victims here at all, but I certainly believe in the freedom of choice.
And if someone wants to get an experimental. Drug, which that is what it was. It was an experimental drug. If they wanted to get that, they have every right to go and get that. But if someone on the flip side doesn't want to get that, they should have every right to have that on it and to not be labeled as XYZ.
There was a lot of coercion. A lot of push, a lot of, um, pressure on individuals to get it. Otherwise you do lose your livelihoods. And I understand on the flip side of that, people could say, well, just leave your job. Yes, that is an option for some people, but [00:12:00] that in itself, like, I mean, I think of you with your long career in WA police, like that is a huge thing to put onto someone and then to only become vaccine injured, like to have such a Horrible, you know, horrible repercussions from that.
And you're obviously not the only one. And there, I have personal friends who have been terribly affected from having the exact same vaccine that you've had and other types, and even down to like menstrual cycles being completely ruined. Like some, not even still today, getting their menstrual cycle from having it a couple of years ago.
I know people that have had, you know, terrible skin issues. Like I could go on for days and yeah, I just think one of the biggest things is the power of choice and being able to make decisions for ourselves. And yes, I understand there are repercussions that can come from that, but like that wasn't awarded to you.
You didn't get to make that decision unless you chose to then lose a very long and healthy career that you've worked so hard for.
Chantelle Kelly: Yeah. [00:13:00] The first one. I, I, I 100 percent chose. I could have made a different decision. I own that. Um, the problem that I had was when they mandated the second one and I said to my employers, Okay, I see that this has happened, um, we have to have the second one, however this happened to me and I would like to wait for my immunology appointment to see what caused this and for me to have more information so I can have this vaccine safely and they said no, too bad.
This is the one. And I was like, okay, so that's when kind of the anger came out, I guess.
Anonymous: Yeah.
Chantelle Kelly: And I was like, well, why is it that every other medication on the market that you can get at pharmacies has the same effect? an [00:14:00] acceptance that it's not right for everybody, even when you go and buy the medication at the pharmacy, they legally have to ask, have you had this before?
Are you allergic? Or, and then tell you how to use the drug. But yet somehow the vaccine was safe for everybody. And if you said it wasn't, and you had this response, you were met with, it's a coincidence, you're a liar. And I even had the, The Medical Association President, um, Dr. Mark Duncan Smith, he said that, my claims cannot be true because receiving the vaccine would be like if someone had a car crash after receiving the Pfizer vaccine and then claiming that the vaccine caused the car crash.
This was in the paper. So, he was likening my stroke to a car crash. And, what, I think they just neglected to see is that I didn't have the vaccine and then months later got sick. I got sick [00:15:00] ten minutes after and gradually got worse and worse and worse and I didn't have any break in between. And then it did continue.
I got, um, nutrient deficiencies. My liver, gallbladder and pancreas got so infected. And I was in so much pain that the nurses said that the pain that I was experiencing, because they've experienced it themselves, is ten times worse than childbirth. And they couldn't operate at first because of the ruptured artery in my brain.
It was too dangerous and I was on blood thinners. So if they cut me open, I would bleed to death. And so I was in this pain for five weeks. Until It was either they were operating or I was going to die and I had to be operated on. It was so scary and I ended up in ICU. So it, it was like this thing that went on between August and December and I [00:16:00] was extremely healthy before, I was the type of person I exercise, I walked 50 kilometers a week, I drank green juices, I've never drunk alcohol in my whole life, I've never taken drugs, nothing.
And, um, to go from that to not even being allowed to walk, because if I walked, it got my heart rate elevated. Blood pressure went up, I could have another stroke and it could be even worse, so, like, and to have somebody say those types of things who are professional and, and they're an influence on society, I, I don't know, it was just,
Hollie Wild: uh,
Chantelle Kelly: yeah.
Hollie Wild: And, and the thing is like, also with what he said, the same, like, okay, just because someone died after testing positive to COVID for instance, doesn't mean they actually died of COVID. Like the same could be said in reverse. It's like saying I tested positive for COVID and [00:17:00] then within two days I had a car accident and died, therefore COVID was at fault.
Do you know what I mean? And that is literally what was put on death certificates that the cause of death was, it wasn't the car accident that killed them. They died of COVID. That was literally what happened. So it's like, hang on, you sprout off one thing, but then you don't even use that same line of thinking in reverse.
Like, and another thing that I, cause I did a little bit of Googling on your story, because obviously we'll get into in a second how it became public. But, you know, one of the things that I saw was. That, that exact same guy that you mentioned before, was it, um, do you say Mark, um,
Chantelle Kelly: Duncan Smith? Yeah. Yeah.
Hollie Wild: Who, who's like the president of the Australian Medical Association in WA.
So he was saying that just because something is on social media or the internet doesn't mean it's factual and that the TGA is not involved in a conspiracy. It's a conspiracy and quite simply Pfizer is not associated with strokes. Right. I saw that he, he said that [00:18:00] correct. Not everything on social media, not everything that you read on social media means it's factual.
We like no one's disputing that. But the same could be said for, you know, the rhetoric of, you know, you're a granny killer if you don't get it, or that it's 100 percent safe and effective, or that it doesn't cause strokes, heart attacks, fertility issues. Right. Or that if you don't get it you're a selfish prick or that you're an enemy of society and you know should be ostracized and bullied into getting it like doesn't make all that true as well Mark Duncan Smith and yeah I think that I could go down a lot of conspiracy routes with this, but I will avoid it.
But even though not, I do believe a lot of conspiracies are true, but in saying that, like he can say these lines that just trying to dispute. And obviously his main goal was to try to get everybody vaccinated. That was the whole purpose of what he's trying to do by disputing you and discrediting you as much as possible.
And, [00:19:00] but, but the thing is like, They could say, yeah, this doesn't cause strokes, but that hasn't aged well because it's come out that actually it can and it has, and people have actually died from, from that. And this is the thing I think where it comes down to the power of choice. People need to be able to make decisions for themselves.
And as you said, you made the choice to get it the first time, right? That was your choice. You have every right to make that decision. For yourself. But I think when people are backed into a very difficult corner, it is hard to make a rational decision for yourself. It is a lot harder. And talk to me about how it then became public from, from where you left off to yeah, how it became known.
And obviously you were a Western Australian police officer. I mentioned you were a police officer, but I didn't mention the state. We are both ex WA police officers. But yeah, how did your story become public?
Chantelle Kelly: Um, well, after the call, when they offered me the chaplain, I, I was [00:20:00] sitting in the stroke ward and, you know, you experience a lot of grief when you go through a massive health incident like that.
And it's hard to explain to people, but yeah, I was angry. And just in that moment, I had a post pop up on Facebook, which was the commissioner at the Royal Show, the Perth Royal Show, promoting the vaccine, come down to the Royal Show, to the WA Police. Um, marquee and get your vaccine and I, this was probably the only thing that I did wrong.
I commented on there and I said, um, here you are promoting the vaccine whilst one of your own staff members in, in hospital, sick from it and has no idea what their life is going to look like now. What does that mean to me? [00:21:00] See,
Hollie Wild: I don't see that as wrong at all. I'm like, go you, good on you. Because
Chantelle Kelly: it's the truth.
Like, that is the truth. That post was very popular, that comment. Yeah, I can imagine. Very popular.
Hollie Wild: And it would have taken guts, too. I just want to acknowledge that. That would have taken courage because there is a lot of pressure on you when you are a police officer to toe the line. You represent, obviously, the government.
You do. You represent the government. It would have taken a lot of courage to actually write that. And I'm sure it came from a very dark place as well from yourself of what you had been through.
Chantelle Kelly: Yeah, um, yeah. If I could change something, it would probably be that. But, in saying that, that post led on to everything else that happened, and a lot of good come from it as well.
Anonymous: So,
Chantelle Kelly: because of that comment, I had people reaching out to me, and one of those people people was Senator Gerard Rennick. [00:22:00] Um, he's a Senator in Queensland who didn't agree with the mandates whatsoever.
Anonymous: Um,
Chantelle Kelly: and he said, if you want to share your story, I'm happy to listen, and I'm happy to take this to the Prime Minister.
Anonymous: Wow. And
Chantelle Kelly: at that point, I wasn't really ready. And I didn't want to cause any more waves, so I sat on it for a bit, and then I decided that I wasn't going to talk to anyone specifically, and that I was going to write my own post in my own way, and tell my story my way without it being edited in any way.
And I'm not sure if you saw, um, but the post that went viral, it was like, started with, My name is Chantal Uren, I'm 37 years old, I'm a West Australian police officer, and I suffered an adverse reaction to the Pfizer vaccine. And then started, and explained everything that happened to me, all the [00:23:00] experiences that I'd had at that point, because it was about a month after that I had it.
Um, and I had, because of that comment, I had received calls from our police union, which we employ to defend us. Ring me up and say I had to take down every single post that I had put on Facebook, including a picture of my husband, of my now husband and I. Um, just. together and it was a really memorable picture for me because my face was paralyzed and he called me beautiful the whole time so that was like that and they told me that I had to take everything down or they were going to sue me for defamation.
Hollie Wild: Sue you for defamation when your face is paralyzed and you're taking like it's all factual and yeah wow. Yeah
Chantelle Kelly: and all I did was tell my [00:24:00] Experience of my story. So I knew from a legal perspective, 'cause I have a law degree, that they couldn't do that. So I got really angry , part of the grief process. Um, and yeah, so that was put into the story as well.
And I also, I've never spoken about this in great detail, but. I got an appointment with a, at the vaccine safety clinic and I didn't know what it was and I thought it was an appointment to check out what I had been allergic to within the vaccine, kind of like a, you know, immunology test when you're allergic to stuff, they put things on your skin.
So that's what I thought I was going in for. The appointment was for them to give me my second shot. After
Hollie Wild: you had reacted to the first
Chantelle Kelly: Yeah, yep. And I was like, I'm not getting this. And I kind of made a bit of a ruckus in the waiting [00:25:00] room with the 30 other people. And I sat there waiting and I spoke to some of the girls in there.
And quite interestingly enough, they were all mid to late 30s. and women, um, and they had experienced all different things, heart conditions, anaphylaxis, and because of the ruckus, I was like, I'm not having this, like, what, what the heck, and they took me out into a back room, and I got to speak to a doctor, and no joke, these were his exact words, it's worth the risk of having another stroke to have the vaccine.
What? Yes, yep. I, I said, So are you happy? I said, Can you tell, sit there and tell me that the vaccine that you want to put in my arm isn't going to cause another stroke? And he said, No, I can't. I said, [00:26:00] So you're happy to play Russian roulette with my life that could literally kill me and you're happy to do that?
And he didn't say anything. And I ended up walking out and I saw. the scariest thing I've ever seen. And the women that I'd been speaking to in the waiting room before, the ones that had anaphylaxis, they had convinced them to get the second shot and they had a nurse there standing there with adrenaline.
I just was mortified that people were putting people's lives at risk. You'd be like, if you're allergic to peanuts, here you go, just have a peanut, be fine. I got anaphylaxis. I got, you know, your adrenaline shot here.
Hollie Wild: Wowzers. It's, it's weird even talking about this because it's, even though I haven't experienced anything like this at all in my life, it's just taking, like, we've, I guess a lot of us have distanced ourselves from 2020, [00:27:00] 2021.
It feels almost like a lifetime ago. And going back there is kind of challenging to remember. What a crazy time in life it actually was. And I can't imagine it would have been even a million times heightened for you having gone through this. And when did you say it was the union that reached out to you that said like the police union yet when, when they reached out and they threatened for defamation, Did you end up taking stuff down?
Did you keep it up? Like what?
Chantelle Kelly: No, I kept everything there and I just kept telling my story because I didn't, I told, I put that post that went viral and then after that I made a decision myself that I couldn't keep playing in that energy and that I now had to switch my focus to healing. So every post after that was pretty much about, you know, I think I did another post when the other mandates come out and I said, you know, for me having another vaccine is like [00:28:00] torture.
And then they put that in the newspaper saying that I liken the vaccine. vaccine to be tortured and to stop people from getting it even though that's not what was said. Yeah, no, of course, of course. We're
Hollie Wild: talking about mainstream media here.
Chantelle Kelly: If you take all of my posts, which are all out there, every single word, and then cross check it with what's said in the newspaper, you can see that they've just taken little quotes and changed the context of what It was said.
Hollie Wild: Yeah. I don't think anyone will be surprised by that whatsoever. And, and did they ever try to see you at all for definition?
Chantelle Kelly: No, you can't see somebody for telling your own experience. Yeah. And it is exactly what happened. So there's nothing that they can do.
Hollie Wild: I just, yeah, I just so much respect for you for standing your ground with that.
And then tell me, so from there, what, [00:29:00] what occurred like with your health, with your own health journey.
Chantelle Kelly: Um, it's been a challenge, so it's nearly three years in September since I had My stroke
Anonymous: and
Chantelle Kelly: it's taken that long to get my strength back on my left side and to stop brain fog and the mental health side like my Face got better within about four weeks, which was lucky because they said there was a chance that it would never get better, and that was kind of important to me.
Um, but yeah, the rest of my body and just the nerves, like nerves take such a long time to heal. And um, yeah, so my goal was to get back to what I could do before by my 40th birthday because all the doctors and the occupational therapists, they said that I had to find a new normal and I probably wouldn't get back there.
And I decided to prove them wrong. [00:30:00] So, and yeah, so I wanted to be able to do the workouts that I could do before I got sick and I wanted to be able to ride a horse again. Um, and I rode a horse the day after my 40th birthday,
Anonymous: so I did
Chantelle Kelly: achieve my goal except one. I didn't get to do a little jump, but I forgot how hard horse riding was, so we'll get there.
Hollie Wild: That's such cool goals. Oh my gosh. I like the whole, that's the thing. Like we hear, I've heard so many stories of people being, you know, injured from taking this. This vaccine, I look, I it's all come out recently. I don't even know if they can actually legit, this is not conspiracy. Call it a vaccine. It was an experimental drug that was obviously rushed through, but you hear so many stories of people that have been injured from taking it and yes, maybe [00:31:00] outwardly the symptoms go, like for instance, you said the, your, It's, you know, wasn't drooping from about four weeks after onwards.
But a lot of people wouldn't think of the mental health side of it. And as you said, neurologically, like that's not something that just gets sorted out overnight. And I'm sure there's. still to this day, things that, you know, affect you and how, how are you today?
Chantelle Kelly: I'm heaps better today. Um, it has taken a lot.
I only started working full time 10 months ago. And for like two months into that every single day, I cried. It was very overwhelming. And it's hard not to compare yourself to what you used to be. And I was, I was a badass, and yeah, [00:32:00] to not even be able to do simple office tasks and things become quite overwhelming and neuro fatigue, I didn't understand that and yeah, just the, the mental side of that, but also at the same time I was dealing with death threats, people saying the most horrendous things, putting shame on me.
Um, yeah. It's hard, um, and I think I'm really tough. So I couldn't imagine if it was somebody else, if they could have gone through it.
Hollie Wild: Yeah. When you mentioned just then about like death threats and things, is this from, because obviously your story became public, was this from a clash from that?
Chantelle Kelly: Yes, um, when my post went viral, so it went all over the world, I never expected that, I thought it was just me sharing something on my Facebook page, and it went all over the [00:33:00] world, and I had a very successful business in Perth, I started my own brand, and um, product based business, and because of that my phone number went Was on the internet and people found it
Anonymous: and I
Chantelle Kelly: was getting text messages and calls and People were saying you deserve to die you stupid bitch.
You're a murderer. I hope your face stays like that You're a disgrace to society people should burn you with your uniform on There's so many things Yeah.
Hollie Wild: All because you were speaking about your story of being injured from taking a vaccine. Wow. It speaks to a lot of, like, fear based thinking, hey?
Chantelle Kelly: Yeah.
And even if you read my story at the end, it says, if you want to take the vaccine, go ahead. If you don't, that's okay [00:34:00] too. But my message was always about, it's not suitable for everybody.
Anonymous: Yeah.
Chantelle Kelly: spoke out very early, there wasn't a lot of information, so I think a lot of people's responses came from a place of fear.
Anonymous: So I tried
Chantelle Kelly: to have empathy with them, but you know, I didn't believe them, and I didn't make it mean too much about me, but they still hurt.
Hollie Wild: Oh God, they're pretty dark things to be saying like to burn you with your police uniform on simply because you are speaking up about being injured from something that that you took and you're just warning people that yeah, like this is a possibility.
It's very much fear based thinking and I guess. One of the ways that people took it is that you are now being a threat to, I guess, the population, because you're speaking about something that they're viewing as almost like the savior. And the thing that will end, like for instance, stay at home orders, or [00:35:00] maybe it will end everyone having to wear a mask, or maybe, you know, if everyone just gets the vaccine and shuts up about it, we'll be able to go on with our lives as normal, and that just wasn't the case at all.
And yeah, what, how does that sit with you now? Do you still receive messages or is that died down?
Chantelle Kelly: Um, I have got a few hate things and it's from people that used to support me. I think because I stopped sitting in a place of blame and I wasn't continually sharing other people's stories and I was focusing on my healing.
People didn't understand that and they're like, you should, you haven't done enough. You should be doing more. And I was like, well, my. My story has been in the Prime Minister's hands and it influenced so many other people to come forward and tell their stories, which resulted in Senator Renwick, me, and everybody else [00:36:00] who told their story about their adverse reactions creating temporary exemptions.
So, I felt like I had done my part and I now had to focus. on my healing. And I have had to do that. But that person's just not for me. So people are allowed to have their opinions. And because I moved, moved on and didn't sit in that place of victim, I think it confused people. Why isn't she more angry? Why isn't she doing this?
Why isn't she doing that? It doesn't make me less angry. It just makes me want to be different and lead by example and my story also helped other people who weren't suffering adverse reactions because I was getting messages from, um, a man who had stage four brain tumors and he was saying you're Your hope and everything is getting me through the day and a cancer patient who was having her chemo She's like I wasn't getting [00:37:00] I just wanted to give up today.
But because I read your post I'm motivated to keep going and I got so many messages like that that that's what I turned my focus to that I'm making a difference in in any way
Hollie Wild: A hundred percent. And I think when you are so focused on healing as well, there's like, yes, there's a time and a place for, for, you know, speaking up about injustice.
Absolutely. A hundred percent. But there's also a time and a place to be able to channel that, that anger and that frustration into healing. Turning it into a positive, into something good like you have. And I think that's a big thing that also made me really resonate with, with the little that I knew about your story was just that you're not, you're not coming from a place of victimhood, which to me is so powerful, like so powerful.
The way that you speak about your story, about what happened. It comes from a place of power, not from a place of, Of victimhood, even though you [00:38:00] were a, an actual victim of being injured from an experimental drug, you, you still have taken your power back from the situation. And I seriously applaud you. And I know everyone listening would applaud you on that big time.
What would be some of the goods that you've taken do you think from the whole situation, some positives?
Chantelle Kelly: Um, well, I think, you know, in the, in the coaching world, they talk about the, Five regrets of the dying, and I can 100 percent tell you that they're true, and so the number one regret of the dying is that you didn't live a life that was authentic to you, and that hit me hard.
Right in the face. When I was in hospital. And I, on paper, was the definition of success. Yes. And I say this from coming from a place of ego, [00:39:00] because I had the the fancy two story house. I had the nice car. I could buy whatever I want. I was earning multi six figures with my career and I had created a successful brand and business.
I went overseas holidays, you know, all the things that people say, um, you know, the multiple degrees and all the, all the qualifications. And I ticked all the boxes. And when I was in hospital, I didn't think about any of it.
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Chantelle Kelly: thought about. hiking and living in the mountains in a, just a small cabin like house.
Um, spending time with my husband, watching him play golf because he's a pro golfer. Just all those little things that you wish you'd do and the things that you look forward to on your annual leave and your weekends. I didn't think about all the tick boxes
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Chantelle Kelly: realized that I'd been living somebody else's definition of success.
So I [00:40:00] gave myself the space. And I said, what do I want? And I literally sold everything. I quit everything. I put everything on the line. And I now am developing a coaching program, which takes people from the ultimate people pleaser to stepping into their own power and becoming a trailblazer and a leader and going after what they want.
Um, it takes a lot of overcoming fear. Fear from your own mind and then the projections of others. So I want to be able to teach people how to live a life so they're not, they don't wait until they're sick, um, before they realize it. And then. Yeah, so that was my biggest takeaway.
Hollie Wild: That is huge. Oh my God.
Just listening to you talk, I'm not going to lie, I literally had goosebumps as you were just speaking then. And, and just like, do you, [00:41:00] okay, do you regret getting it? Or do you feel like It was actually something that is meant to be a part of your path and your journey to mold you into who you are today.
What do you, what would you say to that?
Chantelle Kelly: I, I don't regret it because I wouldn't be who I am today if I didn't have it. And I love who I've become because of it. And so you can't, you know, You can't hate the thing that made you proud of who you are, I guess. The whole journey of it taught me so much about myself, and about life, and about other people, that, yeah, I don't regret it.
Hollie Wild: Yeah, I can sense that in your voice, and like, obviously, We're not suggesting or I'm not suggesting for a second that like the vaccine made you who you are or anything like that or the whole situation made you who you are like you did that work on yourself, but that was obviously a [00:42:00] catalyst for such changes in your life and and for such.
Self awareness and deciding, as you said, what do I actually want in life? Like what do I actually truly want? And often we don't ask those questions of ourselves. We're just in, you know, often fight or flight mode or just in robotic mode of day in, day out that we don't truly ask ourselves, what is it that I actually want with my life?
And yeah, it'd be great to not have You know, some things so big as sickness and illness, and, you know, often it is the big catastrophic things that turn out, you know, get our attention and make us really address life. But at the same time, if something like this, or, you know, if for anyone listening, if you're going through a really, really hard time, there, there is always something good that can come from it, even if you don't see it right now.
Like there is always something good that can come from a really shitty, difficult, hard. Situation. And I'm only saying that just reflecting on my own life, like, you know, [00:43:00] complete different situations. And I don't need to go into it all now, but just every single time when I thought I was in the darkest moment in my life, it, it has literally been something that now looking back on, I'm like, I'm actually grateful.
I went through that even though it was. horrendous at the time, or even though it was the most painful, heart wrenching, difficult thing, like when you're going through it, it's, it's hard to see any good, but when you come out of it, you're like, wow, like in the aftermath, I'm actually quite, quite grateful for that.
And I, I just, yeah, I sensed that in you in the way that you talk about it, even though you are still obviously going through it health wise, like it's not, you're not at some end state of like, yeah, I'm back to where I was prior.
Chantelle Kelly: Yeah, that's perfectly said.
Hollie Wild: And Shantel, before we go, yesterday when I was doing a little bit of research, just it was actually the West Australian article.
That's what got my attention. Um, how did all that come about? I didn't ask you before. So did they reach out to you? Like, did they see [00:44:00] your Facebook page or what was, how did all that come about? And yeah, what are your thoughts on that?
Chantelle Kelly: Yeah, I believe they saw my story post that I'd done, and a journalist called Annabelle Hennessey reached out to me and sent me an email, um, asking if I could go to the answer some of her questions.
But at that time that I'd received the email I was in the doctor's with my legs shaking in my extreme pain and I just couldn't deal with it. So even in the paper they said Chantal refuses to answer questions. But I was like well I can answer your email or I can Suffer the most, the worst pain I've ever experienced in my life and I have to deal with that.
So, it's interesting when they say Chantal refuses to answer, there's always like, more context to that.
Hollie Wild: A hundred percent.
Chantelle Kelly: Um, so yeah, she just asked me questions about, you know, [00:45:00] in your post you claimed that the Pfizer vaccine has caused this, a stroke, but, um, Stroke isn't rec is not recognised as an adverse reaction to this vaccine, why do you believe that your stroke is caused by that?
Because basically it's not true. And then she, um, mentioned the comment about the medical president, Mark Duncan, about his comment and what was my response to that. And, um, He, she also says, Dr. Duncan Smith has said he believes it should be against WA Police policy for officers to make misleading claims about the vaccine while posting photos of yourself in uniform.
What is your response to this? Asking me how long after the vaccine did I experience my stroke? Sorry, if you have [00:46:00] a look at the Pfizer. adverse reactions, their kind of, um, studies, my stroke happened right in between the time frame that stroke risk increases. So tick that box. Sorry, Annabelle.
Hollie Wild: Wowzers. And look, the thing is, I, I know we're talking all about this after the fact, like years after the fact now, but I do think people need to be held to account because you were being blamed for spreading misinformation about an experimental drug that you reacted to, yet since it has all come out that this was nothing but an experimental drug and the claims that were made about it aren't necessarily what they promoted it as, like where's their accountability on that fact?
Like journalists, um, We've got people in, you know, in mainstream media, we've got people, politicians, you know, that are promoting this [00:47:00] and that are enforcing it and saying that you must get it or this, that, this, that, we don't need to go into that again. I've said that a million times already, but like, where's their accountability?
You're getting hate messages. You're, you were getting misquoted completely. Discredited also in your profession and that's okay. But like, where's their accountability? Where's their, you know what? We were wrong. And that's what I guess pisses me off so much as well. I do get a bit more quite irate about this is the fact that it's okay for one, but not for another, you know, that, yeah,
Chantelle Kelly: yeah, I'm, I'm all about that.
And. You say about accountability, so you know, Annabelle ran this story and I was on the front page of the paper and because of that I've received those horrible messages and the death threats and I still have hundreds on my phone that aren't read and then yet the next day [00:48:00] because people did come to my defense and emailed her and um, I think she put the worst of them on her Um, on the front page of her page of the newspaper and she got comments like dumb bitch you're a disgrace you're soulless and despicable and on that was on the front page of the paper saying this is what happens when you speak out about the anti vax people where you know where's the this is what happens when you challenge ideas.
or opinions or challenge the status quo. Um, you know, it's way worse when, unfortunately, you do challenge the status quo. But, um, yeah, I don't know. There is no accountability. And there still isn't accountability because they're saying, oh, whoops, we were wrong. But were you wrong? Or did you just, omit [00:49:00] information, which is the same as lying.
Hollie Wild: Yeah. And I mean, come on, a lot of people also got, made a lot of money from, you know, in positions of power that, you know, they promoted this and money exchange hands. There's proof of that too. This, this whole topic, it's not going away because I think we have to learn from this as a society that there is power and choice, as we said in the beginning, if someone decides that they want something, they believe that it will keep them safe.
They believe that this is the thing that they need for their health. They have every right to go and take an experimental drug, a vaccine, whatever you want to call it. But same goes for people that their gut is telling them this is not for me. And. You know, this is not something that I want to touch. I want more information first.
I'm, I'm a bit wary of this. Like there's gotta be a level of [00:50:00] allowing that, like, there's gotta be a level of choice. People need to be able to have the space to make decisions for themselves, especially when it comes to injecting something into, into your body that can have such long lasting ramifications and.
You know, when we're not victims, obviously we get to make choices in life and we bear whatever ramifications come from that. But there's no two ways of putting this, that this was promoted as something that it wasn't, that this was pushed as something that it actually wasn't. And I sincerely hope, and I'm going to ask you in a second what your own message is.
I'm not putting this onto you at all, but I hope. That as a society, we learn from this and we don't repeat the same mistakes in the future, in the next pandemic, in the next whatever comes our way that. You know, we do stand our ground and that we do say, listen, I'm not comfortable with this. This is not happening on my watch.
This is not going into my body. If it's something that we don't feel comfortable to have and that there isn't the whole thing of you'll lose your job, you'll lose your [00:51:00] livelihood. You will have no form of income if you don't bow to this pressure. But again, that's me saying that I don't want to put that onto you.
But what's do you have a message? Is there anything you want to say before we finish up this conversation?
Chantelle Kelly: If something doesn't feel right, it's not right. And for you, and just trust yourself, and don't be afraid to set boundaries, and don't be afraid to stand up for your opinions, and have a voice, because you're not going to make everybody happy, so if you're dimming your light and giving your power away to someone else, You know, you only have yourself at the end of the day, and no one will have your back better than yourself.
Hollie Wild: Yeah, 100%. Powerful words. I agree fully with you, and yeah, I think there's a lot of lessons that we can learn from your story, and there are so many people out there that main, like [00:52:00] have had similar, if not the same reactions or, you know, different stories, but, but still being affected by this. And they would say the same thing.
The message is trust yourself, trust your gut, trust your internal authority, trust, you know, yeah, go within and really listen. And obviously, yes, like look at all information that's presented to us. We're not talking about just, you know, cutting off. everything and not listening to anyone outside of ourselves.
Absolutely not. Like, look at all sides of a story, look at all sides of information, you know, read up, ask professionals, ask friends, ask whatever, whatever it is. Right. But then always come back to yourself, always come back to your own inner compass and trust that. And, and, and, And, but also know that you can get through anything, even if it means for some people, they did lose their jobs for some people, you know, they had no income for quite a while, but you, you can absolutely get through anything, no matter what it is.
And you are an absolute testament of courage. You are a testament of [00:53:00] just absolute resilience. Thank you. I really want to say that to you. Yeah. When I look at you, when I hear your story, I'm just like, you have so much resilience and you know, you, you just have so much of that internal power. And I, I have full respect for you for getting through what you have gone through and what you are continuing to go through.
And yeah, I wish you nothing, but the absolute best in the continuation of your journey. And with your coaching program that you're building out and, Yeah, it's really exciting. Really, really exciting. I just want to thank you so much for being here today. Well,
Chantelle Kelly: thank you for having me.
Hollie Wild: Thanks for tuning in to this controversial episode.
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