Ep. 06 | Feminism: Liberation or Modern-Day Victimhood?
EPISODE TRANSCRIPT
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Welcome to Controversial as Fuck.
Hey legends, how the bloody hell are you? Welcome back to another week in Controversial as Fuck podcast. I am actually video recording these episodes now so that they can go on YouTube as well. So I've got a couple of screens going on here at the moment. I'm also freezing my bloody ass off. I'm in Perth, Western Australia.
I don't know where you are in the world, but it's meant to be a top of 18 degrees Celsius today. We're in winter and it feels like it's two degrees and our aircon is broken. So our heater is not working. So I'm phrasing, but this is also pretty ridiculous. I used to live in [00:01:00] Canada. So, you know, Canada has proper winters.
This technically is not even a proper winter, what we experience in Perth. But anyway, nonetheless, I'm phrasing, but I just want to say, hello. How are you? You're absolute legends. Thank you for tuning in again. I am loving this. This podcast, I'm loving the discussions we're having. I'm loving the topics that you know, I'm going over.
Yes, they are controversial, but I'm here for all of it. And I've made it very clear right from the very beginning that I don't believe I have all the answers. And I want to repeat that. Like, I truly don't think that just because I'm talking about a particular topic doesn't mean that I think I have all the answers on that topic.
It does not mean that I think that I'm the most knowledgeable out there. I'm the first to admit that I am learning. I am discovering new things all the time. Plus, I'm also aware. that I have my own biases, that I have my own worldviews and beliefs. And, you know, they have been formed from [00:02:00] as early as childhood.
So I can be wrong on so many things. And I will admit when I realize I am wrong. So I just want to make that very clear, just because I'm talking about very controversial, very taboo topics does not mean that I think I've arrived, that I'm a and that, you know, I'm just right on everything. I'm not. And this is going to be one of those topics.
So we're talking about feminism today, right? I want to start by saying I'm not the most knowledgeable individual out there on the topic of feminism, which might sound contradictory because I'm literally doing a podcast episode on it, but this episode is not me teaching you what feminism is. I'm not doing that.
I'm actually bringing a very different viewpoint on feminism, but acknowledging at the same time that I don't know at all. I don't know everything about feminism. In fact, I would say what feminism started as it no longer is. It is a beast. It is a beast of a movement to the point [00:03:00] that most individuals, whether they're male or female, that you ask, what is feminism?
You will get a million different answers from a million different people. Same when you ask, what's the patriarchy, you get so many different answers. Most, I actually think now as in modern day feminism, and I'm going to get into all of it. I actually think it has become a massive echo chamber where as young women growing up with the movement of feminism, we have as a, as a group of women kind of just become our own echo chamber and just repeating words that we commonly hear like mask, um, toxic masculinity, patriarchy, right?
These are words that we constantly have heard or have been drilled into us by a movement that now most don't even know what they actually mean. Like, let's be honest. So the whole purpose of this episode is not to teach you what feminism is, because as I said, I don't know it all. I have a lot to learn.
And [00:04:00] the reason why I'm saying that is I actually would love, and I'm putting it out there. I would love to have two women come on my podcast at once. One who is very knowledgeable or both, and very knowledgeable on the feminist movement. Um, one who is very pro the feminist movement and one who is more against it.
And I would love for them to come on at the same time and seriously discuss it and discuss all different points and views and theories and, you know, have rebuttals and all sorts of things. And me sit there and just kind of like navigate the conversation and sit there and, and as a third wheel listening in.
Because as I said, I don't know it all. I have so much to learn. But in saying that, I have a very strong opinion on the feminist movement that brings a lot of Um, spice my way, for instance, on my social media. So on my Instagram in particular, I did a whole reel about what I think the modern day [00:05:00] feminist movement has become.
I see it as, and again, I'm going to get into all of this in the episode, but just to paint a scene, I do see the feminist, the modern day feminist, what it seems to be now today, I'm not talking about the first wave of feminism. I see it as it's become a movement where women seem to want to be Heard over men, trusted over men, earn more than men, right?
And I was putting all of this into a reel and it came with a lot of backlash, which is totally okay. I actually did, um, I can't bring it up because I'm recording on my phone right now. I actually did a, uh, Instagram story today where I said, I will not delete people's viewpoints and opinions and comments on my social media accounts.
I'm not going to do that. I am the first person to stand here and say, I believe in the freedom of speech. And it would be so disingenuous. Is that even a freaking word? It would be so wrong of me. I believe in freedom of [00:06:00] speech and then go and monitor everyone's speech on my social media and start deleting everyone's comments just because I don't like them.
Or just because I see that they're being mean to me. Like, God forbid someone be mean to me. I mean, honestly, I think that that would be really weak of me to do that. So I am not deleting people's comments. Now, when I put this, um, Uh, Instagram reel up that was about the feminist movement. Obviously it came with a lot of backlash.
One of the things that actually surprised me though, was backlash from men. That actually surprised me to my core. I expected women to be like, what the crap? You don't know what you're talking about. Like, and I would. I would respect their opinion, because again, I'm not saying I do know it all about feminism.
I expected women to come on and be like really hard in their stances. And some were, and some were incredible. And I had really good discussions with them. Some really like great conversations, but the men surprised me. And I want to mention this because I was [00:07:00] technically defending men in a way I was technically saying women, like we need to do better.
The feminist movement, what it stands for today has turned into something that I don't think the first wave of feminism, the women that were a part of the first wave of feminism would really stand for now. It's, it's to me, again, I'm going to get into this more in a second. I see it as perpetuating career victims amongst women, amongst men.
The female sex. Right. And yeah, it genuinely surprised me when men came on and some of them really had a crack at me. Like some of them came for me, I'm not going to lie. Like comments, like, Oh, just the concert, something along the lines of just the conservative party come with your, what was it? Butchered nose job or something.
And I was like, What's the fuck? I've actually never had a nose job, but thank you. What has that got to do with about me saying I think the feminist movement has gone too far? But anyway, [00:08:00] the reason why I bring this up is because I'm finding that the ones that opposed me when I actually looked at them and looked at their accounts, like these men that were really aggressive about it, to me, they came across as very effeminate Men.
And I am finding that people that tend to stand in the, and I'm talking about men, right? Just men for now, men that tend to almost attack women. And I'm not saying I was being attacked, but men that do come across as though they're attacking women when they actually say the feminist movement has gone too far.
These men tend to fall in the camp of effeminate, what I consider quite weak men. Now I know that's a judgment that I'm casting based on seeing someone's, what I could see of some people's profiles, right? But I do see this where some men that are, like the, the basic, what I was told was I'm wrong for questioning the [00:09:00] feminist movement because I have the feminist movement to thank for me being able to vote, for me being able to have a bank account to own property.
What was the other thing? Oh, another thing was for me to even be able to voice my opinion on social media. So what they were saying was all of these things, I have the feminist movement to thank for this. Therefore I should shut up and just be grateful for the feminist movement. And this was men, men were alluding to this, men were even said this to me, right?
And I found that pretty darn fascinating that here I was saying this movement, in my opinion, has gone way too far. And they're saying you have no right to question what it is now. Because I wasn't saying the whole feminist movement is wrong. I was saying what it's turned into. And here are these men saying, no, you can't question it.
You have to say that you're oppressed by men. And the reason why I bring this up now is simply so I don't forget to mention it in this entire episode. But to me, That to me [00:10:00] comes across as like, and I'm making a major generalization here, but these are the type of men that were probably bullied at school, right?
Probably bullied at school by the more macho guys and they have an issue with strong masculinity. And they're projecting that onto me. This is how I took it. That these guys would be so against any form of strong masculinity in another man, that they would project on that strong masculinity as. toxic masculinity and therefore all women of the world are oppressed and if you don't say so you need to shut up and thank the feminist movement for the fact that you can even use your voice today how fucking ironic that was to me I was like are you what what so here I am a woman in my 30s and I'm not allowed to question what the feminist movement in my opinion has become I'm not even allowed to raise questions about it.
I'm not allowed to make any statements about it. I just have to shut up and say I'm oppressed. [00:11:00] I'm not oppressed and no, I'm not suggesting that that is the case for every single woman on the earth. I'm, and I'm going to get into this, but I'm not oppressed and I'm not going to say that I'm oppressed by men just to pander to men.
Like it's just, it blows my freaking mind. Anyway, let's get into the actual episode. So just to paint a picture of what we're going to get into. I'm going to cover off on what is feminism, like with some, some actual definitions of what it's considered. Uh, why did the feminist movement even start? Oh my God, I'm actually shivering.
I'm so cold. Why did the feminist movement even start? I'm going to talk about two different camps of that. Again, I'm not saying I have all the answers. This is just my observations. But some will say, and I'll get into it, that, you know, feminism started for choice. And others say it actually wasn't about choice and I, this is a very fascinating topic, so I'll get into that.
I'm going to go into very briefly, what are the four waves of feminism? Because feminism is a movement, but there's been [00:12:00] different waves of feminism and they're all quite different. And I'll be the first to say, I can understand the first wave of feminism. I actually have issues with the second, third, especially the fourth wave.
Oh my God, talk about victimhood. Then I'm going to get into what is egalitarianism. And before you nod off, these are brief, I'm going to go into these very, very briefly. Again, this is not a teaching podcast episode. I'm not here to teach you and educate you on feminism, but I think it's important because I'm going to tell you my unfiltered opinion on feminism.
But first we need to talk about what feminism actually is. So I'm going to discuss egalitarianism, what that actually means. I'm going to briefly talk about what is the actual patriarchy, what's And then I will get into why I have issues with the feminist. What are my honest issues with it, as well as a very unique take on why I think some women would consider themselves to be strong [00:13:00] feminists and why others would say they're not.
This will be a very unique take, so definitely stick around till the end. Alright, let's get into it. What is feminism? Feminists would say, generally, that it's about fighting for equal rights, get my words together, equal rights. and opportunities for women, right? So if you're comparing men and women, they would say it's about fighting for women to have equal rights with men and equal opportunities with men.
So they see it as a movement to challenge and dismantle the systemic inequalities and injustices that have historically kept women down. So here are just a couple of definitions for you because again I find most people don't actually know what the feminist movement actually is and there's so many different strains of it these days And I'm not going to get into all of it.
There's a lot I have to learn on it In general definition, it's the belief in an advocacy for equal rights and opportunities for women in all [00:14:00] areas, right? So again, it's about women having the same rights and the same opportunities as men. A political definition is it's a movement aimed at defining, establishing and achieving political, economic, personal, and social equality of sexes.
So it's, a lot about equality. Again, it's about being equal. Of course, it depends on who you talk to within the feminist movement. There will be difference of opinion. Okay. I want to make that clear. I'm not saying every single woman or man. out there who says they're a feminist will agree on these definitions because they have changed so much over the years.
This is a general political definition. Then you've got an academic definition, which is a range of social movements, political movements, and ideologies that share a common goal, which is to define, establish, and achieve political, economic, personal, and social equality of the two sexes, right? [00:15:00] That helps to paint a bit of a picture.
That is what most would kind of say. Now, why did the feminist movement even start in the first place? Because it started, I believe, in the late 1800s. This is not like just yesterday. Why did it start? Was it for the power of choice? Like, you hear constantly, you hear people, a lot of modern day feminists say feminism is about choice.
It's about a woman being able to make the decision for herself, for instance, if she wants to go and work, say a nine to five job, or if she wants to be a stay at home mom. A lot of feminists, I find, say that that is what the feminist movement is all about. You hear it on social media all the time. It's all about choice.
I get to make decisions for myself, right? So, and I'm going to give a rebuttal to that in a second. So, the first camp would say, yep, it's about choice. So feminists in this camp argue that the movement started to give women the power of choice. They believe [00:16:00] feminism is about allowing women to make their own decisions, whether that's about going to work, staying home or anything else.
The idea is that women should have the freedom to choose their own paths without societal restrictions. Again, you hear this a lot. I will say though. That yes, some people would say that that is what feminism is about. But I also can see that feminism as a movement has shat on massively stay at home mums.
There's no two ways around it. You can say no, you know, feminism is all about choice. A woman gets to decide if she wants to have a career or be a stay at home mum. But let's be honest, as a movement overall, I think feminism has shat on the idea of being a stay at home mum. That that is not seen as good as being a career woman, as being a boss babe, a boss bitch, whatever you want to call it, right?[00:17:00]
As a movement. This is how I see it, you may see it differently, and I will respect that we can see things differently, but I do think that stay at home mums are seen as not, not an honourable thing. And I think that is so fricking sad and I actually just want to speak to stay at home moms now or aspiring stay at home moms and say that is one of the greatest roles on earth and it should be protected at all costs and revered at all costs and not seen as less than being a career woman.
Yes, I believe in the power of choice. I don't think that's why the feminist movement started and I'll get into that, but I do believe in the power of choice. I think that a woman should not be forced to be a stay at home mom. If she's way more career driven, she'd probably suck as a stay at home mom, right?
Vice versa. If someone aspires to be a stay at home mom, they shouldn't be like looked down upon for aspiring to, to have that role in life. It is one of the most [00:18:00] beautiful and I think rewarding roles out there personally. I'm a stay at home mom. So this is coming from a stay at home mom. Now that was camp one saying it's all about choice, but then the other camp.
And I actually learned this from TikTok from some pretty knowledgeable feminists out there. They say that feminism didn't start for choice. This camp argues that feminism wasn't just about individual choices, but it was about collective liberation. Now, I can understand this. This makes sense to me. They say that choice feminism, or another way of putting it, you might hear is white woman's feminism, but that's not true.
Makes the movement about a woman's individual self actualization rather than about achieving systemic equality, right? So this is their perspective. Feminism, they say, started so that women were no longer regarded as property. It aimed to have women seen as humans, not as property. [00:19:00] For instance, they say the feminist movement started to allow, to give rights to women to be able to vote.
Right? To be able to hold property, to have bank accounts, credit cards, to get divorces because you weren't allowed to, and to consent to medical procedures. So they're saying, no, no, no, no. Feminism didn't start for the power of choice for a particular random woman somewhere to decide whether she's is a career woman or something entirely different.
They're saying that's a bonus of feminism, but that's not why it started. They're saying it started so that women could be viewed as humans equal to men. This is, this is from a feminist perspective. I'm not saying this. I'm saying this is what they say. And I can understand where they're coming from, right?
Because Back in the day women weren't allowed to vote, weren't allowed to own property, you couldn't have a bank account, a credit card, you couldn't legally get divorced, um, and that you couldn't in some cases consent to medical [00:20:00] procedures. So they were saying because of that, men were seen as higher than women and women didn't have the same rights.
So the feminist movement started so that women were now seen as equal to men as in Not just seen as property, but was seen as human beings, right? So that's why they're saying it started. So they believe that true feminism isn't just about about making personal choices, but it's about dismantling the systems that treat women as less than human.
Because they're saying that if a woman can't vote. then she's less than human. If a woman can't get a bank account, can't divorce her husband, can't, you know, consent to medical procedures, then she is no longer seen as human. She is seen as property. I want to make that distinction because I think otherwise I'm going to naturally get screamed at by feminists.
And I don't mean this in a rude way. Like some of my friends are feminists. Some of, I know some of you listening to this podcast are hardcore feminists. And I actually. Have had conversations with some of you [00:21:00] and you are individuals that I highly respect. So I just want to make that clear. I'm not against feminism as in I think the entire thing is terrible.
I think what it's turned into is a shit show. But I also just want to acknowledge the fact that, I mean, I've said a million times, I don't know it all, but I do think you guys will scream at me if I don't make that distinction that feminism didn't start because of choice. And there's nothing worse than having an angry feminist come down in throat.
That's a joke. Let's all have a little laugh at that. I'm having a sip of water for a second. All right, let's quickly talk about the four waves of feminism. Just got a little bit more to cover and then I'm going to get into my. Controversial opinions and I won't hold back. The four waves of feminism. All right.
So as I said, there's been four waves. The first wave, which started in the 1800s, this was all about securing basic legal rights. Again, not about choice. It was about legal rights. It was about, they say, women being seen [00:22:00] as more than just property. This was especially in regards to the right to vote. So there was women like Elizabeth Cady Stanton and Emmeline Pankhurst, I think I'm pronouncing those correctly.
They led the charge and they pushed for legal reforms and for women to have the rights, basic legal rights. I can understand. Now I have seen and listened to some incredible viewpoints that actually don't shoot me down, don't shoot the messenger. I have heard some incredible viewpoints in videos where people have actually discredited even the first wave of feminism and actually can point out.
Why it actually wasn't as great as it's made out to be. Now, if you're listening to this and you're a feminist, or you're listening to this and you're just like, what the crap, of course, women should have rights. Yeah. If I had, if I [00:23:00] was going to agree with any part of feminism, I would say it's the first wave, the first wave of feminism.
Even then I'll touch on one point quickly. I can see where women voting can actually be be deemed as not so great. Now, before you kill me, just hear me out. My fellow females, just hear me out for a second. I was on, for instance, TikTok and there is, Oh my God, what is his name? There is a guy. Oh, his name has just escaped me.
There's a guy who has actually, um, gone through and had a complete sex. I don't know if you call him sex change. Now he's transgender now. Uh, so he is a transgender woman. Now he is very famous. He's got millions of followers on Tik TOK and online. He's been the face of different campaigns. They've been parading him.
Is it Dylan? Somebody I can't think of his name. Um, but he's been paraded by Hollywood as like this [00:24:00] great transgender woman and, you know, spokesperson and face of the transgender community. And anyway, he was talking on his Tik Tok about how he was misgendered and how people say, Oh, you're the guy from Tik Tok, whereas obviously he's saying, no, I'm a woman or he calls himself a girl.
I'm a girl. He freaks me out. I'm not going to lie. He completely freaks me out. He freaks me out. If I think of his name, I'm going to add it in editing. So I might say it, but, um, yeah, anyway, so all of the comments were people affirming him and saying to him, No, you are a woman. No, you are a girl. No, you are blah, blah, blah.
Like it was just nonstop. And when I looked at every single comment, they were all women. They were all women. Now, another point. When we went through COVID, and when we went through the whole hysteria of COVID, and you know, stay at home orders, and you know, the lockdown orders, [00:25:00] and wear your masks, and double glove yourself, I'm making that one up.
Good. triple vax yourself, all of that, right? This was all pushed through based on fear. Okay. So the only way that a population can bow, can bow down to this is if we succumb to fear and if we succumb to peer pressure, and if we succumb to the propaganda machine, which again is driven by fear. I personally believe again, don't shoot me down.
I personally believe that if it was down to just men, COVID would not have gone down the way that it did. Right. I actually believe it would have been shut down and we wouldn't have had any stay at home orders. We wouldn't have all been pushed into trying to get vaccinated by this, you know, experimental drug that technically hadn't gone through rigorous testing yet.
I actually think a lot of this was pushed because women freaked out, because [00:26:00] biologically, we are different. We are wired very differently. We are more as women. more into our feelings. That is who we are. And that is not a bad thing. I'm not saying this is a negative. It is also a strength of ours. We feel things deeply.
We have our periods, right? So we have an entire hormonal cycle that is very different to men. Men usually across the board are pretty much an even keel. throughout a month, right? Day to day, pretty even keel. That's not to say that they don't have bad moods. That's not to say they don't get moody at times or have sad times, but across the board, usually men are pretty even keel.
Women, we are up and down like there's no tomorrow. It is again, it's not a bad thing. It's how we're wired. It's, it's a beautiful part of us, but there's no denying that, right? We succumb to fear a lot easier than men do. Even listen, I'm a strong woman. Okay. I'm a strong woman. Even, I'm acknowledging this in myself, we are more [00:27:00] susceptible to fear based propaganda.
We are more susceptible to this kind of shit, right? So what I'm saying is, I can understand, I'm not saying I fully agree, but I can understand the rebuttals of, you know, It's probably not great that women vote because we are more based in our feelings. And there has been changes since women have been voting where people have been elected that are freaking nightmares.
Okay. That is a thing. Now, again, I'm not saying that. I'm not saying that I disagree with the first wave of feminism. I am still learning. I'm still trying to understand, but I, I am very open minded and even though I will stand strong on my opinions and I will not hold back, I will be unapologetic in how I voice them.
And I'm going to in this episode, but I want to make it clear. I am extremely open minded and I can actually see both sides. I can, I can see both sides of this debate. So that's a first wave feminism. Second wave. This expanded to fighting issues like workplace [00:28:00] discrimination, reproductive rights, sexual liberation.
So this is like, especially in the sixties and seventies where this was pushed through. This is like the sex, sexual liberation. This is where obviously, uh, you know, reproductive rights came in and that's the second wave of feminism. Then the third wave, which kicked off mainly in the nineties, this is what embraced like diversity and intersectionality.
So, Originally, feminism was seen as Uh, all power to white women really, because it was seen as like, uh, all women go through the same things, all women across the world experience the same things, which is not true. So then in the nineties with the third wave, when I'm talking about diversity and intersectionality, that's where it came into, well, no, you know, there are differences between different cultures, women in different cultures.
So this started to challenge the idea that all women have the same experience. Um, and then the fourth wave of feminism, which I probably have the most issue [00:29:00] with. Well, actually no, the second, third and fourth, the second and fourth, I especially, I'm not as knowledgeable on the third, but the second and fourth wave I have pretty big issues with, but the fourth wave.
So the current wave of feminism, which has been powered by the internet and social media focus a lot on issues like Me Too, body positivity. And fighting against sexual harassment and assault. Now you can bubble wrap that and put a pretty bow on it. And maybe that sounds great, but I see through a lot of this, I see this as what has been creating career victims amongst women and the body positivity movement.
Again, you can bubble wrap that and put a pretty bow on it and say that it's all about, you know, fighting against, social beauty standards and all of that. And I agree that not all women are meant to have the same body. I agree that we're not all meant to look the same and that there's different shapes and sizes and all of that.
But I [00:30:00] also see the body positivity movement as now the obesity glorification movement. And the, I've just given up on myself movement. Therefore I'm going to tell everyone that no, we're just being body positive. Thank you. If we say that we're fat and we love it, whereas really we just have no self control.
We have no self discipline, no level of consistency in life. We've completely given up on ourselves, but I don't want to be judged. Therefore I'm going to push it out there that no, we just have to be body positive. I have a real issue with the body positivity movement. Well, probably not for why it started, but for what it's become.
Same with feminism. It's not necessarily for why it started. It's for what it's become. Okay. So that's the four waves of feminism. Now, what is egalitarianism? This is the belief in equal rights and opportunities for all people, regardless of gender, race, or social standing. So it's about creating a level playing field where everyone has the same chances to succeed.
Why am I [00:31:00] even discussing what this is? Well, it's because often people tend to equate feminism with egalitarianism, thinking that feminism is simply about achieving equal rights for everyone. However, Some argue that this view oversimplifies the goals and challenges of the feminist movement. And this is why we have biological differences.
Some argue that egalitarianism pushes the idea that women and men are equal when biologically we aren't now, please, I'm going to ask you to take for a second, our feelings out of this discussion. We are not, as women, equal with men. Men are not equal with women. Hear me out. I'm not saying based on our value and based on our worth.
Yes, on our worth and our value, all human beings are equal. But, are we equal biologically? No. Right? And I'll get into it in a [00:32:00] second. But this perspective, right, of, you know, that we are biologically equal. It's, it's held that in striving for egalitarianism, women end up having to appeal to men for equality.
I'm going to make this clear in a second, which is actually a contradiction because this means that our perceived equality can be taken away at any time, leaving us powerless to stop it. Now, what do I mean by that? If we think that we are oppressed by men, let's just say that for a second, that women across the world are oppressed by men, right?
That they hold the highest level of power across the board. If that is true, then if we're seeking to be equal with them, that means that we have to, um, basically appeal to them, to the men to give us equality. Think about it. As a woman, if you're saying you're oppressed [00:33:00] by the patriarchy, you're oppressed by masculinity overall, for you to become equal with that man, I'm not talking about worth and value, right?
Biologically equal, then you have to actually appeal to the men to have equal standing, which to me just, it's, it, it just makes no sense what whatsoever, because that means that that can be taken away at any time, which means that we are actually powerless to stop it. I want to expand on this a little bit.
Biologically, men and women have different physical and psychological traits. Again, take your feelings out of it for a second. I'm not saying you're not equal to a man. If you're a woman listening to this, I'm not saying you're not equal to a man. If you are a male listening to this and you consider yourself a feminist, one, what the fuck dude, take your balls back.
Like I will say that very strongly. Uh, this is a side note, but men that [00:34:00] call themselves feminists gross me out. Like there's no tomorrow. Like honestly, dude. Dude, dude, dude. Either one, you're pussy whipped. And you need to get your balls back. Or two, as I said earlier, you're probably bullied by guys in school, which is not cool.
I'm not saying that's okay, but you probably have such an issue with strong masculinity that now it's your life mission to just shit all over strong masculinity and to call it toxic masculinity because you have none yourself. And therefore you're going to call yourself a feminist because you just hate masculinity because again, you have none within you.
That was a side tangent, but I'm just, oh, the guys on my social media that have come for me that are calling themselves feminists, like you are the grossest excuse for a man as far as I'm concerned. When I see men on social media parading themselves as feminists, like, wow, way to pronounce to the world that you have no balls, dude.
But anyway, if you're a man listening to this, which I doubt you would call yourself a [00:35:00] feminist if you listen to my podcast and you're a man. Different if you're a woman, I get that. But if you're a man, like, let's just take your feelings out of it for a second, dude, right? And let's just say, men generally have greater muscle mass and physical strength than women, right?
But that doesn't mean that they're better than us. I'm stating biological facts. Women have different hormonal cycles and reproductive functions. We are different biologically. This is why I think the whole gender neutral change agenda, like the wind thing is absolutely nuts because it doesn't change anything biologically.
But anyway, these differences can actually impact our capabilities and roles in certain situations by pushing the idea that men and women are completely equal in every aspect. Egalitarianism can ignore these inherent biological differences. This is why if people say feminism is about egalitarianism, if, [00:36:00] because some people do say that, not all feminists say that, but if they do, the reason why I think it's a bit crazy is because you're actually ignoring biological differences.
This can lead to situations where women feel like they must conform to male standards or appeal to men to gain equal status. This is why, to me, egalitarianism is just, it's impossible. We're different for good reasons. We're not meant to be the same. A woman is not meant to be a man and a man is not meant to be a woman.
For instance, though, to explain this point, This might mean that women feel pressured, for instance, to work longer hours or to adopt more aggressive behaviors that are typically associated with men to be seen as equal. I saw this a lot as an ex police officer, where the female police officers started to kind of act like men, right?
Even in myself, I had to check it constantly where I was just being one of the boys because it's a male dominated area, right? Because you want to be seen as equal. Therefore to be seen as [00:37:00] equal in a male dominated force, like as a police officer, you kind of, it was, it was just like within you, you'd have to check it within yourself to not act like one of the guys and to not feel like you had to compete with them.
Right. It is a contradiction in trying to achieve equality when it comes to like full equality as far as biologically women may end up relying on the approval or standards set by men, right? I'm saying this from a feminist perspective. Okay. This then undermines their autonomy and actually reinforces the very power dynamics that they seek to dismantle.
This is why I don't think egalitarianism is the goal or should be the goal. Okay. Moreover, if equality is perceived as something granted by men, as I said before, it can easily just be taken away. This leaves women in a vulnerable position where their rights and their status are dependent on the whims of those in power [00:38:00] rather than being inherent, right?
This is why I think while it might be well intentioned. Egalitarianism can sometimes fail to address the unique challenges that women may actually face, right? And I just don't think egalitarian, egalitarianism is the, it's the point. I'm almost at my main point of this entire podcast, but quickly, what is the patriarchy?
So the patriarchy is considered a male dominated culture and system. An ordered system where men are in charge, right? It's, it's seen as like men hold the primary power and, and like they're the boss basically of all like political leadership, moral authority, social privilege, control of property, all of that.
A feminist definition of what patriarchy often is seen as is it's a system that perpetuates gender inequalities where women are pressed by the wielding of power in a patriarchal system. So they're forced to do things against their will. [00:39:00] When discussing the patriarchy, I want to make this point. One question that often arises is where were the women when these so called patriarchal systems were formed?
If women are supposedly surviving in a system created by men for men. Then what were the women doing about it? That is a question I've asked. What were the women doing about it? Did all of the men of the world just band together and orchestrate this? And that might sound lame, right? But think about it.
We're saying that it is a male dominated system, that it's a system designed by men, created by men for men. So what did all of the men in the world at one point in history, just band together and create this and orchestrate this? Or is there something deeper at play? This is a genuine question. So some argue that the formation of a patriarchal system is linked to biological differences between men and women.
This is how I see it, right? Men historically have been the [00:40:00] protectors, the providers. their roles aligned with their greater physical strength and societal expectations, right? Whereas women on the other hand would have been the nurturers, the caretakers, their roles aligned with their reproductive functions and societal norms.
I actually see the differences in men and women being biological differences and that these so called systems, like for instance, a patriarchal system actually aligns with the biology of a man. These roles weren't necessarily imposed by men to oppress women. This is something I'm saying, but rather developed out of practical necessities and biology.
Men went to hunt and protect. They would sow their seed, right? They would have sex and sow their seed. While women stayed back to nurture and to multiply. And no, I'm not making a point of women need to be stay at home mums. I cannot make this clearer. If you are a woman listening to this, and the last thing you want to do on earth is be a stay at [00:41:00] home mum, I'm respecting that and I'm honouring that and I'm saying don't do it then.
I do think there is pressure from society to not have children these days and to not be a stay at home mom. As I said earlier, it's shut on big time. And I think it's sad that a lot of women are missing out because maybe they've waited too long. Right? And I do think it is one of the greatest, I'm a mom, it's one of the greatest blessings in the world.
But I don't think that that is a woman's only thing she can do in life. Just let me make that clear. But from a biological perspective, the reason why I'm talking about this is because to me, like, and I'll get into this in a second, but the patriarchy is seen as this big bad thing of like, men are out there to get women and to oppress women.
And this will make sense in a second, but I see it quite differently. So the division of labor and responsibilities could be seen as a natural extension of our biological differences. A point I will make with that is, you know, a lot of people say that there is. [00:42:00] inequality in pay rates, right? Whereas when you actually break it down and you compare a man and a woman in the exact same role with the exact same work experience, the exact same skill set, like all of the same, they actually, and I'm, I'm, I'm Australian.
So I'll speak just about Australia. I can't say this for every single country. Let's just say Australia right now, but first world countries, right? Men and women are paid the same because if not, a woman can actually sue for discrimination. You are paid the same when it's based on your experience and your level of, you know, your qualifications and your skillset.
Where there is gender pay gaps is because we're often comparing complete different roles. So for instance, when I, when it comes back to being like a division of labor and responsibilities, A lot of this is actually choice. Women don't want a lot of the male dominated roles. We don't want to be, I'm the first to put up my hand and say, I do not [00:43:00] ever want to be a bricklayer.
I don't want to be an engineer even. I don't want to be a carpenter. I don't want to be a roof. Tyler, God, I didn't even know what the roles are. Like, I don't want like a plumber. I don't want a lot of these jobs. I wouldn't want to do them. I have no desire to do them. Does that mean there's a gender pay gap?
No, it's just women don't actually want the roles that men want. And men typically don't want the roles that women want. Because biologically, again, we're different. As societies have evolved, these roles may, from the view of a feminist, have become rigid and institutionalized, right? And I can acknowledge that this is a point of a feminist, that we've gone from it just being about biology to now it's actually they're rigid and they're institutionalized.
And this is where they see that there are inequalities today. The argument isn't that men conspired to create a system to oppress women, but that these systems evolve from our inherent [00:44:00] biological differences and the practical needs of human, early human societies. From my point of view, the patriarchy, which in its, of itself, the patriarchy just means father rule, is birthed from biology and not from a desire to actually oppress women.
Sure, some men do oppress women, right? Let's acknowledge that. Some women oppress men, but that's the behavior of individuals, not a reflection of all men or the patriarchy as a whole. Let's get into my issues with the feminist movement. This is where my point of view is pretty strong and pretty different because yes, I can see that there have been some undeniably.
Big changes come from the feminist movement. I have some beef with parts of it one We are the weaker sex before you bite my throat Take our feelings out of it again. I'm not saying we're weak. I'm not saying women are weak Anymore than a [00:45:00] fighter in an MMA fight who loses on the day of trying to go for the world title You He loses against his male opponent.
That doesn't mean he's weak, right? He just, he didn't, didn't win the fight that day, right? I'm not saying that just because he lost that fight that he's now weak. With us, I'm not saying we're weak. I'm not saying women are weak. We are so freaking strong, right? It's, we are a weakest sex. When you compare biology, Across the board, of course, there's nuances.
There are women that are stronger than men. I know I would be stronger than some men out there. There's, I'm not denying that fact, but across the board, we are not as physically strong as men. We are the weakest sex to try to be equal with men. As far as everything is just redundant. It's it's we're different biologically egalitarianism.
Again, it pushes that women and men are equal when biologically we're [00:46:00] not, we would have to, I've made this point before, but we would have to appeal to men for equality. If that was the case, right? If you're saying we need to be equal with men and they're the ones that are better at the top. then you would need to appeal to those that are at the top for you to be equal, which is redundant again, because it's a contradiction and it sets us up for failure because our perception of what is equality could be taken away at any time without us being able to do anything about it.
And you may say, Oh, well, we could, you know, arm ourselves. We could get firearms and okay. One across the board. They're not that easy to use firearms. Men are way better at using firearms. Again, take our feelings out of it. I know some of you are probably incredible shooters women. I passed my firearm test the first time at the police Academy, right?
But still across the board, even if every woman on the planet had guns, men could still take over if they really, truly wanted to from a strength perspective. Again, some problems I [00:47:00] have lies about serving as men. We've been told a lie that we are best served being being men, right? Modern day hardcore feminists, in my opinion are honestly the ones that are exhibiting this toxic masculinity.
Not that I actually think masculinity is toxic. I don't, I think an individual can be toxic, but masculinity in itself is not toxic. It is one of the most. protective things on the planet. And I'll, this will make sense in a second. Most modern feminists would say women are unjustly oppressed by a patriarchal system, but to avoid this, this oppression entirely, we would need zero positions of power above another, which means no government, no police, no leaders, no hierarchy in workplaces.
It would be a utopia. It would be a utopia, right? You'd have no, no positions of power whatsoever for this to happen. Also the [00:48:00] nuclear nuclear family, so traditional family unit, there has been a big push against having that traditional family unit because it supposedly breeds a patriarchal system. So hardcore feminism seems sees the nuclear family as the biggest threat and considers it dangerous.
And yes, this has been said by hardcore feminists that a traditional family unit is actually the biggest threat to feminism because it breeds apparently a patriarchal system of the father being the head of the family. I've seen a big, this is one of the biggest reasons why I have an issue with modern day feminism because I do see it as Breaking down of a traditional family unit.
A couple more points on it is student loans and family delays. There has been a big push for women to wait to have children so that they have something to fall back on if their husbands leave them. This has been a common thing you hear. I see it online, even I've seen people [00:49:00] talk openly about their issues with the feminist movement and you often see comments and they come from women that will just wait till your husband leaves you then, then you'll be grateful for the feminist movement, then you'll wish you were a feminist, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
It's like just spitting such hate and vitriol. But I do see this big push for women to wait to have children. Like it's, it's pushed on us. to wait to have children. So you have something to fall back on. The issue I see with this is if I put my tinfoil hat on for a second, I am, I do love a good conspiracy.
I think that it has impacted the industrial revolution because the feminist movement spurred changes during the industrial revolution because women started working a lot more outside of the house. This meant children then had to be somewhere if they're not at home with either parent who's looking after them, right?
Which then meant we needed educational [00:50:00] daycares, aka schools, which then led to double tax per household. Who wins here? The government. The system at large wins with feminism, right? And this is why I'm a little bit skeptical and I have a very skeptical eye when I look at feminism now, modern day feminism, because it breaks down, in my opinion, the traditional household.
It generates more tax. It ensures children are being raised by the state. Which means it's easier to infiltrate their minds, to manipulate their young minds, and to put whatever agenda you want. For instance, blurring of gender identities. Right? That's pushed in schools now. Pronouns are being pushed in schools.
It's like, this is all being pushed by the government, by a system. I actually, my very controversial opinion of the feminist movement is that it has been weaponized by the system. By the system at large. Thanks. by [00:51:00] government, right? It may have started as something that could be seen as great, as women being viewed as equal to men as far as rights.
Okay. Amazing. Amazing. I can acknowledge that. That's awesome. But what is it now? I think it's been weaponized. I think it has turned women into perpetual victims where we are victims of the so called patriarchy. Right? And if you stand against that online, you get told, shut up and be grateful for feminism.
You have no right to question. You have no right to say anything. Shut your freaking mouth is what you're basically told. And be grateful that you can vote. Be grateful that you can have a credit card. Be grateful that you can divorce. Be grateful that you can own property. And I just have something to say to that.
Just because a movement has had some good things come from it, [00:52:00] does not mean that now you don't get to question a single thing about it. That is the most redundant thing I've heard. And I hear it a lot. People keep saying it to me on my social media and in messages. Get fucked if that's your message. No system, no movement is above reproach.
I don't care what good has come from it. I will goddamn question what I want. And I encourage you to as well. And again, I'm not saying I'm right. These are questions that I have, but you think about it. If we have more women outside of the family home, if we have two people per household, now working, we have our kids in schools that opens up the doors for them to be raised by the state.
To have whatever gender, agenda the government wants to be putting into our kids heads. We have more worker bees, more taxable incomes. Who's winning here? The state. The state is [00:53:00] winning. Again, I don't think every woman needs to be a state home mom. I don't think every school out there is bad. These are just valid points and questions to raise.
Some rebuttals also about the feminist movement is education, right? In first, I'm talking about first world. I don't know all of the information out there on every single country in the world. I'm not even going to try to, to come up with answers for everything. But I will say this, more women are actually educated than men.
In university, if you're in America, Canada, colleges, you'd call it. More women are actually educated than men. We are paid equally when doing the exact same jobs with the exact same qualifications. As I said before, the same experience working the same hours, women can actually bring lawsuits for discrimination.
Otherwise, it's a choice that women don't want the same jobs as men and therefore earn less. We don't actually want equality in jobs. We don't desire physically [00:54:00] laborious jobs. It's a freaking choice. It's not inequality ladies. It's not inequality. We don't want their roles across the board. Biologically, women and men are drawn to different roles.
Women across the board don't want to be plumbers, coal miners, bricklayers. We don't want the physically and environmentally challenging roles across the board. Of course, there are always exceptions. No, it doesn't mean we can't do them. I'm not saying we are. Um, just, you know, incompetent human beings were incredibly intelligent and strong and completely capable of a lot of these roles, but we don't want them.
I'm not saying we're weak. We just mostly don't want the same jobs. So to then say that we are paid less, well, yeah, if you compare the average male's income to an average female's income, I'm sure there are big differences. There's probably big discrepancies. But that's because we don't want those goddamn roles.
Again, I don't want to be a freaking [00:55:00] bricklayer or coal miner or a miner. I don't want to do that. If we're working in the exact same role with the exact same level of experience, previous experience, qualifications, skillset, et cetera, we are across the board paid the same. Again, if we're not, you can sue for freaking discrimination, ladies.
Also, women are the only ones who can bear children. Now, he me out. Take our feelings out of this for a second again, just for a second and just sit with the simple facts. A man can dedicate more of his time to his career over the span of years. Whereas most women will be out of the running due to raising children, due to maternity leave.
Even if you're not a stay at home mom, like you're going to have to take time off at some point to give birth. You don't, you don't just go back to work the next day. And yes, often men do hold positions that are higher in companies. But that's likely also because they've been in the game for longer. They haven't gone and had maternity leave.
Does that suck? [00:56:00] Possibly if you're a very career driven woman that and but you also want children that probably does suck Let's acknowledge that but is that the man's fault? No It's not, it's not because they're a man that that's the problem. It's biologically, again, we are different. We are biologically built different.
Our entire makeup is based on a freaking cycle. If this was a man's world, men would be making the most money in every single role out there. They'd be killing it in OnlyFans. Well, they're not, right? They don't dominate every single field out there. Men can't just walk into anywhere and get hired because they're men.
In fact, in Australia, in first world, women actually have a better chance now of being hired to tick a box for equality. And I know this for a fact. Right. I know personal close men in my life who work in [00:57:00] corporate, who have actually said that women have been hired over men for positions, high levels in corporate, simply because they tick a box for equality, because the company wanted to be seen as equal.
being equal and, you know, not being sexist, even though the men who they were up against were better skilled, had better work experience, were better suited to the role. They actually hired the woman for the role in multiple, this is not just once, this is multiple times because they wanted to tick the equality box.
And the woman was hired over men, even though the men, again, were better suited for the role. And guess what? All the men freaking knew it too. They knew it was just a tick for the box. I think honestly, modern day feminism has become a weaponized ideology. The patriarchy to me doesn't oppress women or hold them back from their true potential.
I actually see modern day feminists as very bitter, [00:58:00] very angry women who hate men. Again, not all a lot of women are saying they're feminists and they don't even know what it means. A lot of women are saying they're against the patriarchy and they have no goddamn clue what the patriarchy even is. I'm not saying all women.
I'm saying the hardcore modern day feminists do come across to me as very bitter, very angry women who hate on men. I could go into a lot more and I'm actually gonna do a whole episode on casual sex, because I do think it links in, on single mums, Right. And I'm a single mom. I want to acknowledge that I have some very different viewpoints on single moms on casual sex across the board.
I'm going to do whole episodes on this, but I do just want to say a big point of why I actually think that you can kind of fall into two camps when you look at feminism. So just stick with me for this part here. I actually see that it's little [00:59:00] girls inside women's bodies who are actually opposing the protection and the leadership of their fathers.
Now just stick with me, this may sound heavy for a little bit, I'm going to acknowledge all points in this. And I'm going to give my own personal, like, history on this. Hardcore feminists. are often the ones that were the most hurt by their fathers or by a father figure. That could have been uncles, grandfathers, male cousins, right?
A caregiver, stepfathers. I actually see it as they're running from the protection and the leadership of their fathers because it either wasn't there or it was a lure for harm and pain. Again, I don't think this is the case. Uh, the patriarchy, I think this is individual men. For instance, I know women who are very close to me who had a very rough time growing up because of their dads, because of their granddads, because of their uncles.
Maybe they [01:00:00] were sexually abused or they were abused in other ways. But the men that were meant to bring, and this gets me emotional, the men that were meant to bring the most love, Oh God, this gets me emotional. The most protection to these little girls brought the most pain to them. Like sincerely, it was a lure.
Their masculinity was a lure for harm and for pain rather than protection, which is what it was meant to be. I actually crave the leadership and the protection of a strong, masculine man. And I know most women actually do. Hear me out. When this doesn't come from a place of pain, it's different. But I also had that in my father.
This is going to get me really emotional. I never saw my dad's protection or leadership as oppressive or as holding me back in life, even though he was much more protective of [01:01:00] me than my older brother. I found safety. I found peace and comfort in that. My dad's masculinity, my dad's protection was my safe space, like right from the moment I was born up until now, like my entire life.
And I know this is going to hurt to hear for some women, especially the ones who you were hurt the most by men growing up. Please stick with me. This comes, I hope you can hear it in my voice, from the most love for you and for your situation. I have the most compassion for you. I really do. I know my situation is the opposite and that might be why we see things quite differently.
Nobody, nobody could get to me growing up no matter what age I was or still am without first getting through my father. I wasn't oppressed. I was honestly seen [01:02:00] in my dad's eyes as the most precious jewel. God, this gets me emotional. My dad was my first freaking love. Like he was my king and he still is my king.
My dad is one of my absolute best friends. And to paint a picture, my dad was an ex bikie right before I was born. He was an outlaw motorcycle, part of an outlaw motorcycle gang in Tasmania. He was a tough dude, right? And then he became a born again Christian. So I understand my upbringing brings a different viewpoint because of my own experiences.
I am the first to acknowledge that if my upbringing was very different and I was repeatedly hurt by men growing up, I would very likely have a view that the patriarchy is this terrible thing that's out there to hurt me and to get me. And I would consider myself a hardcore feminist. I would, but that wasn't my experience.
My dad, like he was my [01:03:00] everything. The patriarchy literally means father rule. It's a healthy at like at its healthy core. It's the protection of women. It's not the oppression or the holding back of women. Patriarchy means like it's the father rule. They are the rule, but in love, in compassion, in protection, not oppression, not holding a woman back.
I would actually say honestly, the modern day, hardcore feminists. are using their ideology, and please take this with love, to cover up the pain and the fear that they're experiencing because they didn't have healthy, strong, masculine men in their lives who loved and who protected them. Because when in the presence of strong, masculine, like healthy men, it triggers those inner wounds.
It triggers the unhealed pain. [01:04:00] And it reveals and exposes the wounded feminine within the unprotected and trodden feminine energy that is crying to be protected, that is yearning to be loved and to be treasured like a precious jewel. But instead of that being able to take place, and instead of maybe tracting, for instance, in relationships, a man who exhibits those incredibly strong masculine traits, as she is coming from a wounded place, a place of deep pain, That woman had to become that for herself.
And that's what I'm seeing. I'm seeing the feminist movement is being driven by women who have had to become that for themselves. But I want to acknowledge that, yes, you might have become the strong one that you needed. You might have become the fiercely hyper independent, I can do it all my own woman. A woman who doesn't need no man.
the one who can't receive a door being held open for you without making it mean that you are weak, the one [01:05:00] who can't allow a man to guide and lead you without meaning that you are now broken and incapable. The thing is though, let's just say for woman hurts you. You don't say, or woman or women are that way and make it mean something about toxic femininity.
But in the case of a man or even just a few men, right? We then go and make it mean that the entire gender is toxic. And now anything that resembles any form of masculinity has to be squashed. Any form of strong masculinity has to be ridiculed and punished because it triggers an internal wound that remains unhealed.
This is why I see men that have come out against me quite openly on social media saying just shut up and be grateful for feminism and they call themselves feminists. I actually see them as having a wound in them that's come from men. [01:06:00] Maybe they were bullied at school. Maybe, you know, in the workplace and they, again, they resemble any form of masculinity as toxic because it's what they don't have within themselves.
Maybe, yes, some men were absolute jerks to them. It doesn't mean the entire sex of men are that way. Yes, some men are toxic. But it means nothing at all about their masculinity. Let's make it clear. It's them, the individual. The same way that if you're a woman, it doesn't mean anything about your femininity.
If you're a toxic woman, we don't go and say, Oh, femininity is toxic. It's just the individual. The root cause isn't the masculinity or the femininity. It's the unprocessed stuff inside of the human. The expression is through their masculinity or through their femininity, but that's not the problem. That's not the root cause.
I think it's time to stop tarring an entire gender, so males, with the same brush. Because [01:07:00] I freaking hate it when, for instance, all single mothers are tarred with the same brush. I'll give you an example. A woman who was incredibly toxic, controlling, maybe she was abusive in her relationship with her male partner.
Maybe she took her husband to the cleaners when she left him, sucked him dry of every last cent she possibly could, took everything right from him. Maybe she cheated on him, discredited him, took the children from him due to absolute lies. Maybe she continues to slander his name and just won't stop talking about him or won't allow him to move on with new partners without trying to sabotage their future relationship.
Maybe she's angry and bitter and vengeful and speaks badly about the father to her children to destroy any chance of them viewing their dad in the same light. Like, that is a terrible, shitty mother. Let's make that clear. Let's say she doesn't take care of her body and her health. She sleeps around continually.
[01:08:00] Just hates on men. Everyone's a toxic man. On paper, it would just say single mum. Right? Even with all of that, it's still on paper, she's a single mom. Well, guess what? On paper, I'm a single mom. Do I represent any of those things? Absolutely not. Are we the same? Far freaking from it. Like I couldn't be the furthest thing from everything that I've just described.
Does it suck that I'm being lumped into the same category as someone like that? Yes, because we're not the same. We are far from it and those closest to me know that and can see that but again on paper, we would both just be single mum. But at the core, it's not single, the single mum label that's the problem.
It's the individual that's the problem. Men aren't the problem as an entire gender. Some individual men are the problem. I really want to make this distinction. I [01:09:00] genuinely think that there are some women that are very hurt, that have been wounded massively by men, but it's not the whole entire sex of men.
That's the problem. The patriarchy again is father rule. And if you've had a beautiful experience with a father or with any like male leadership in your life. That to you is not a bad thing, right? I love, I love that my dad was the head of the family. My mom was not weak. None of us viewed my mom as weak.
My dad was the protector. No one could get to the family without getting through him. Like I loved that. You know, I had my first boyfriend when I was 21 and got married at 22 within the church dynamic. I'm not religious like at all. Now I'm much more spiritual minded, but that was my upbringing. You know, when I first dated that man, who, who was a part of the church, when my dad first met him, my dad took [01:10:00] him, made him go outside of the front of the house.
Here I am at 21 years of age, made him go outside of the house and said to him, if you ever do anything to hurt my daughter, I will bring all hell on your doorstep. And I remember giggling about it and being embarrassed and being like, what the crap dad, like I'm 21, this is so embarrassing. But I look back on that with so much love and so much gratitude.
He told that man, you do anything to cross my daughter, like you're gone. And I knew he meant it. Like he would bring all help to that guy's doorstep. If something was to go wrong, if he was, if he was to bring harm to me in any way, is that toxic? Heck no. Every girl craves to be protected by a man. It does not mean she's weak.
We are designed to be protected. Biologically, we are designed to be protected. I don't oppose the patriarchy for what it actually means at the core of it. Father rule. Protection. Care. [01:11:00] Leadership. Like, you crave that. You hear women saying, in a relationship, there is nothing more secure than a man who can lead.
Than a man who can freaking make decisions. Than a man who's like, you know what? I want to take you on a date. I would love to pick you up at six o'clock Friday night. Let's go to XYZ. Like that is so sexy. You don't have to make a decision. Does that mean we are incapable as women? Heck no. Does that mean that we can't make decisions for ourselves?
No, stop making it mean something about us in a negative light. Most feminine women crave the masculinity of a man. It is sexy. It is nurturing. It is safety. We don't feel safe around men that can't lead. We don't feel safe around men that can't make a freaking decision. Passive men. We also don't feel safe around men that won't stand up to us.
Does that mean again, something wrong about us? No. [01:12:00] Women naturally test men. We will test to see where the boundaries are in a relationship dynamic with a man. Whether we're conscious of it or not, we will test to see is this man strong enough to lead me? Is this man strong enough to lead a family? Is he strong enough to make decisions?
Is he going to be safe with my heart? Is he a leader or is he a follower? And this is why I think it is the most disgusting thing to see a man call himself a feminist. No woman, in her right mind, no feminine woman feels safe around a feminist man. That is a sorry excuse for a man. You are not strong, you are fucking weak.
Like no woman, no feminine woman feels safe around that. We crave the protection and the safety of a strong man. That does not mean something negative about us women. The patriarchy has been turned into something [01:13:00] greater than what it actually is through an echo chamber. Because some men suck. Because some men are assholes.
Now all men are labelled as that and now it's seen as like all men across the world have conspired to oppress women. I am not a victim. I refuse to call myself a victim of the patriarchy or to call myself a victim under men. I will, I refuse to get into a relationship with a man that will not lead me. I refuse to get into a relationship with a strong man that will not put me in my place if I need it.
Like honestly, and that's coming from a strong woman. Hear my voice. I am a strong woman. I refuse to even date a guy who can't make a freaking decision. I think I've said enough. The patriarchy, it's just an echo chamber. Feminism is now an echo chamber. [01:14:00] In saying all that, I will acknowledge again, I don't know everything about feminism.
This is the way that I view it. And I come from a place of Not having been through really shitty situations with men. I haven't, even though I've been divorced, I still, again, don't consider myself a feminist and don't think that men are horrible. I have the utmost respect for strong masculinity. I have the utmost admiration for strong masculinity.
And I call upon strong masculinity to every, any man listening to this. I like, I encourage you to lean into your strong masculinity. Don't water it down. Don't let society tell you that it's toxic. Fuck that right off. We need strong men in this society. Otherwise we're going to have repeats of fricking COVID again.
We're going to have more of the gender neutral nonsense going on and the push for transgender on kids. Like. We [01:15:00] need strong men to stand up and say enough's enough. And I think feminism is honestly making most men now scared to even be men, scared to even use their voices, scared to even speak. And that's, I think, an agenda of the system to break down traditional family units, to break down, uh, traditional, like family structures and traditional relationships.
It's to tear down any chance of kids being raised in a family unit, get them into the state again, get double tax incomes like this. None of this to me is chance. I again think the feminist movement has had some great things come from it, but I also think it is now a massive echo chamber and it is now being used as a tool of the system.
I'm not a feminist. I refuse to call myself a feminist, but I'm going to open up. this podcast to people to [01:16:00] come on and to discuss it with me. I'm open to it. I think I've said enough. If at any point during this episode, the audio changes, I just want to make it clear that in editing, I sometimes add more things in.
These are big topics and I sit on them for days. And then sometimes I think of things that I want to add in. So if the audio changes, it's purely that, but I also want to say, I never take something out. I do not filter myself. If I have said something in a podcast, it's for damn good reason. Even if it makes me uncomfortable, even if it brings all fire, hell and brimstone to my doorstep, I'm still going to stand by it.
So I do not edit myself out. I may just add things in. I'm going to leave this here because this is a very long podcast. Please receive this with love, and I love your guts as always, and we'll chat soon. Bye. Thanks for tuning in to this controversial episode. If you found our discussion thought provoking, share it with your friends and spark some debates.
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This is Hollie Wild signing off.
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