Ep. 44 | Where the Hell Have I Been? Spinal Energetics, Melbourne, and What’s Next
EPISODE TRANSCRIPT
Holy shit. This feels good. Just sitting here talking to you, whether you're just listening to this. Podcast or you're watching this on YouTube. I have missed. Doing this I haven't missed podcasting. And. Yeah, big catch-up big catch-up episode. What is going on. Uh, shit. So I had two weeks of not doing an episode.
That's just unheard of. From me as you would know, like I'm pretty consistent and regular, like I've missed a couple of comment, chaos episodes that are the Thursday. Drops over the last few months. I think it has been to. Random ones. But I never miss like a Tuesday main episode drop. And so, yeah. I want to explain what the crap's been going on.
Where have I been? What have I been being doing? Why am I not doing episodes for you guys? And what, yeah, there's so much to catch up on. So [00:01:00] first of all, I got really sick. So I like to, get ahead on podcasting as far as how many episodes I have. You know, in advance because two episodes a week can be a lot. Maybe not for some, but for me, like to make sure I'm consistent with two episodes every week.
I don't just record them normally the day before I like to have things recorded in advance, especially if they guest episodes, like I like them to be recorded early on. So I was two weeks ahead. So you think of that? That's like four episodes in advance, right? Two weeks ahead. And I did that deliberately because I had a trip. I live in Perth, Western Australia, and I had a trip to Melbourne Victoria in Australia. Coming up at the end of November.
So I was like, I need to make sure that I'm ahead because there's going to be a whole week where I'm not going to want to record an episode. I'm going to be away. So. Two weeks ahead and then no joke right before my trip. I got so, so sick. Like I got really sick. I [00:02:00] was very unwell. I had pretty bad sinus infection and I didn't. You might want to slap me for this, but I didn't want to go to a doctor and get medication for it.
I want it to clear it naturally. I just, I'm really funny about like, unless absolute emergency. I don't like to take medication. I've just been that way for years after being the opposite for most of my life, I used to like pop a pill for anything like. I need an antibiotic sure probably didn't need it, but I would take it. And I've got a headache.
Sure. I'll take a million tablets to fix that. Like I was just, you know, I would just take anything. Whereas these days, I'm a lot more aware of not doing that. And I feel so much better for it. But anyway, long story short, I got really sick. So I had this. I don't know, it was just a head cold to start off with.
I had a head cold, which turned into like flu, like symptoms with the body aches. The non-stops not the chest thing, which turned into a sinus bloody infection. Anyway, I was not recording episodes. I was just like, that's cool. We'll do it [00:03:00] when we're in Melbourne. So I knew I had enough until then. And then I was like, I'm just going to take my microphone with me to Melbourne. And I will record a couple of episodes while I'm away. So I took my microphone.
That didn't happen. I still had a sinus infection pretty bad too. Might I add leading up to Melbourne? And then I flew to Melbourne on a Saturday and no shit that night I sat in my Airbnb in the shower, on the shower. Like on the shower floor, I sat in there. With the hot water nozzle, showerhead holding it on my face. I swear.
I was probably, well, this is not good for the environment. Shoot me now, but I was probably sitting there for 30 minutes. I'm not even kidding you. And just massaging the crap out of my sinuses to try to help to clear it because it was so fricking painful. And so obviously that explains why I didn't do episodes because I was like then behind.
And when I was in Melbourne, I was like, I am not [00:04:00] recording. Like, this is not happening too bad. Sorry, everybody. I haven't had episodes for two weeks. But then obviously I was pretty sad at the thought of being sick while in Melbourne, because I was like, holy shit, I've come here. For a training course.
And that's what I want to talk about today. I went to study spinal energetics. So. For those that are new to the podcast, or if you're, this is the first time hearing me. Hey, welcome. Stick around. Um, but, uh, you know, there are people that have listened to me for ages and they know a little bit about my backstory and the different modalities I've learned.
I'll just give a quick brush over, but. You know, I was an ex police officer, or I am an ex police officer. I'm not a police officer now that was like 10 years ago that I left so long time ago. But in Western Australia, After that I, you know, chopped and changed jobs. I was just like, I just don't know.
I know I'm here for more. I know. I really want to help people in some capacity. I just don't know how. Let me down the path of, [00:05:00] you know, should I do coaching in some form? I don't know what, but some form which then led me and I'm talking about over years, by the way, there's so much in between this, but then led me into learning human design and really wanting to. And that was because when I first looked into my own human design, it blew my mind and it actually resonated very strongly with me.
And it was almost like a permission slip for me in so many ways. Not that I needed anyone's permission, but it was like a permission slip from the universe or something. To take ownership for parts of myself that I've been at war against. And one of those parts was, it was revealed in my human design that I'm a big questioner. And that that is my life theme.
My life theme is to question systems and structures and authorities and the status quo. Uh, not just a question, but to bring about change and to bring awareness, to create. Better systems and structures and authorities. Right? So that was like, oh my God. I'd been at war with that part of myself. No joke my whole life, because I was taught growing up. In a very religious setting to not question, to not [00:06:00] question, to just accept, to do not go outside of conformity to new, do not go and not conformity of the world as they would call it.
But the conformity of the religious setting do not break free of that. Conformity do not question anything. So like I'd. Not war with that part of myself, my whole life. I always used to sit there and like in conversations with people, I'd have so many questions and I'd want to ask and it's like, I can't do surface level fluffy.
Let's talk about the weather. I want to understand how do you view the world? Not because I want to challenge it, but because I genuinely want to understand other people's perspectives and it's almost like I'd have this voice of like, ask this question. I asked that question and then this other voice of like, shut the fuck up and don't come off as a wierdo.
Don't come off as a wierdo like, do not ask that question. Don't ask them if they believe in aliens, don't ask them what they think about the system. If the world. I don't ask that shit. You're a wierdo, Holly. So like just this constant war. So human design was like this massive permission slip that I wasn't even [00:07:00] seeking, but it was like here, stop being at war with yourself.
So that was awesome. But it's much so love human design. I want it to go deeper with clients, even deeper, more on like a real, like visceral. Life-changing soul changing level. That led me into studying. Trauma based works and like sematic, like body-based works. And so I studied. Uh, root cause therapy, which is incredible.
I've had the creator of root cause therapy on this podcast. I also was studying. embodied processing, which again, I've had the creator of embodied processing on this podcast. So big advocates of these words love them. I actually was doing root cause therapy with my clients earlier this year and incredible changes like people that are having the highest levels of anxiety. Stress, like not coping with life, like feeling like they are about to crash and burn.
Like they cannot take anymore type of, you know, situations in life. Going from that high level of anxiety, like rating it a [00:08:00] 10 out of 10. Too, like some of them were ones out of 10, you know, only six, five sessions. Right? Like it was incredible because it actually gets to the root cause. So I was like, this is awesome. Love it, big advocate of this type of work.
The only thing is it does involve an element of talk therapy, which is totally fine. I'm not against talk therapy. But I am huge on efficiency. And to me, it's like, If we can get to the same result. But in maybe a shorter amount of time or without having to talk about a lot of stuff that we may not necessarily want to talk about. Even better, let's explore that. So even though I still have people asking to do sessions with me of root cause therapy and I may bring it back.
Like I love it. I love root cause therapy. It is incredible. It. It seriously brings incredible results. When someone leans into the work. So, this is not a diss on that modality at all. Love it. Swear by someone very close to [00:09:00] me, worked with me this year as a client, and they still talk about the profound effects that those sessions had on their life.
And this person is not a shit talker. Like. They would give it to me straight. So they like, it was awesome. They've told their friends about it.
But. One of the things that I find can happen when we talk. Well, there's two different ways of looking at it. When we talk about things from our past, or when we talk about things that are painful and we talk about things that we haven't quite reconciled or excepted in our life. It's one side.
It's beautiful to be able to talk about them because sometimes just talking to someone. Brings clarity brings acceptance and can bring healing, right? The container of being able to open up to somebody, to like a safe person can bring healing in itself where you then don't have to talk about it over and over and over for the rest of eternity.
Right. But. We can also, from that gets stuck in the story. We can get stuck in [00:10:00] the stories of the past, where. We are resistant to the past where resistant to things that maybe have happened to us in our life, or were resistant to, you know, taking responsibility for our part to play in different things, different life experiences, whether that's relationship breakups. Whether that's, you know, something going on in your job, in your career, it could be any form of relationship, dysfunction stuff with family stuff, growing up, like.
When we just endlessly talk and talk and talk, which we don't do in root cause therapy, by the way, I'm just saying, like, talking about things in general.
Sometimes we get stuck in the story. And we're just reliving it. We're not actually bringing healing or moving on or not even moving on because it's like the story still remains, but we're no longer affected by it. And that's, that is what led me to want to learn spinal energetics. So backstory. What to the crap, [00:11:00] how did I even come across spinal energetics?
So spinal energetics first and foremost was created by Dr. Sarah Jane. She's this absolute legend of a woman. From Melbourne, Victoria, Australia. I've had the pleasure of now meeting, obviously I've studied under her. She's a chiropractor, amongst many things like. Highly intelligent woman. And one of the most grounded down to earth people I've actually ever met.
Like that's hand on heart. I instantly vibed with her when I was in Melbourne instantly. I was like, this chick is fricking cool. So I had never heard of this modality that she created. Right. I'd never heard of it until it was actually August this year. So August 2024, I was watching a reel on Instagram of someone I follow. And he had attended. A, a training course on spinal energetics.
And there was something about his video that just caught my attention. I was like, what the clips is. I've never heard of this. What is it? Knew nothing about it. Right. And the instant [00:12:00] gut feeling I got was you need to look into this. Like, this was instant in the core of my body. You need to look into this, you need to study this.
And I was like, whoa, well, first of all, what is it? It looks like a fricking exorcisms. What is it? And I did look into it and instantly it was like, you've got to apply. I didn't even have the money at that point, but you have got to apply. And I looked into it. You can only train in person. If you're in Australia, the only place you can train currently in person to do spinal energetics is in Melbourne.
Right? And I live on the other side of Australia in Perth, Western Australia. And applications weren't open. I no joke checked every single day for a couple of weeks, every single day. And I even got my application ready. So she only takes on a, I think it's like 25 people per round or something like that.
So she also has prerequisites for you applying. You've got to have experience working with people. There's a whole bunch of questions, right? So you can be knocked back if she doesn't think the work is right for you, it's just not the right time. Or they're at [00:13:00] capacity. You can be knocked back. And I was like, no, I'm doing this like a thousand percent.
I'm doing it. I had it all written up. Ready to go. The day that they opened applications, I put it in and within two days I found out I was accepted and I was like, holy shit. This has meant to be, you're going. So plan a trip to Melbourne, the end of November. That's what I was in Melbourne for. It's a four day in-person training. And part of the course is you have to have experienced at least one session. Of spinal energetics for yourself so that you know, what it feels like and what it actually is leading into. You're learning it in person.
And there's a whole like online portal that gets opened up to you. So, you know, it's not just, in-person, there's a whole bunch to it. There's a lot to learn because it is based on chiropractic principles. So like the body, the spine, the nervous system has a lot to it. So,. I experienced my first ever spinal energetic session virtually. So it wasn't in person and yes, it can be done virtually. I experienced it and it blew my goddamn [00:14:00] mind. Blew my mind. Right. Just. Blue. Mine. It's like, where do you begin? I, during that session? We've got to remember. I didn't talk about any, like it wasn't from talking right.
As I said, It's not talk therapy. I told the lady I'd never met her. I told her a little bit about myself, a tiny bit about my history. We probably spoke for like 10, 15 minutes. Right? And then it was into the session, which I'll get into in a second. And. Basically she is working on your body again, virtually. You're like how the crap does this work?
Yes, it is an energy modality, but it's not just energy based when you're in person. There is a physical component to it as well, but. Think of wifi, right? Think of the, this is what I love about it. The natural intelligence that we all hold within our bodies. Right? So it's that intelligence That kicks our digestive system into gear.
It's the [00:15:00] same natural intelligence that tells us when we're hungry or that tells us, you know, when we're tired and we need rest. It's it's, it's all of that. Right? It's the innate intelligence. That's what we're working with. So when I say energy, don't think of like, It's not some crazy Over the top thing of like conjuring spirits and calling things.
I'm just not into that. That is not me. I've never touched witchcraft. I'm not into. A lot of, to be honest, I'm not into a lot of over the top spiritual stuff. I'm very esoteric. Don't get me wrong. I am open to. You know, esoteric concepts and modalities and all of that, but I can be quite wary probably even though i'm not religious, probably because of my religious upbringing.
I'm closed off to some stuff that's out there. Right. So witchcraft is a big no-no for me. I'm just, I have zero interest in witchcraft. i have zero interest in like your Ouija boards and seances and. All that shit. I'm not into calling in other things into me, or like [00:16:00] hard pass. No. But, and that's just me, but with where the crap was I going with that? Oh, yeah.
So the innate intelligence. So it's, it's about our own energy within ourselves. So she wasn't calling something into me. She wasn't using her energy. To do something to me, it was all to do with my body. I instantly just started sobbing during the session. I was like, what? The crap, like, I was completely fine before.
Why am I crying? And I had memories flash up now, again, I'm not talking, I'm laying there on my back with my eyes shut and all this is happening. I had memories come up from my past that I thought I had moved on from clearly hadn't it was still living in my system. And that's the basis of this is we don't need healing this is why
I love spinal energetics. We don't need healing. We don't God damn need fixing. We don't need a savior to come and rescue us. Like, as in we need some healer. I have a real issue with that term as well. Healer. I'm not going to lie. I do. I just think it can be a bit of like a hierarchy thing of like, I'm a [00:17:00] healer, I'm up here.
I'm coming to heal. You, you need me, like, I just, I'm not into all that stuff. Like. I'm just not. I don't like feeling like. I need someone to fix me that I'm this broken little bird that requires another human being to bring healing. To me. I'm just funny about stuff like that. I think that we all have the capacity to heal within ourselves and other people can facilitate that other people can hold space for that, but they're not the ones healing us.
Like I really believe that I don't think anyone is healing us. So. With this work. The basis of it is that, yeah, we're not broken. We're not broken. We just still hold tension patterns in our physical body, from things from our past, or it could be things currently going on in our life that just need unwinding, that just need the capacity to be able to unwind on themselves.
And that is what drew me into this work and [00:18:00] experiencing it for myself. I was feeling my body literally unwind intention patterns that I didn't even realize I was holding. And the breakthroughs from that session were really profound for me to the point that I was like, this is it. You have got to give this your all, like, you've got to give it your all. So I went to Melbourne. And started it.
I actually am going to ask Dr. Sarah Jane to come on my podcast to hopefully soon we'll be able to tee that up and I'm going to actually get her to explain all about it. Way better than what I could right now. I'm just going to give you the basis of it. But. I am drawn to the fact that one, we don't have to talk about the past over and over.
You don't have to talk. If you don't want to, your body knows what to do. Your body knows how to unwind those tension patterns. Which you could call trauma, right? It's I I'm saying tension pattern. Cause it's just a less abrasive word than trauma. Trauma is such a charged word these days, you know, and it gets overused.
So instead of looking at it, it's just tension patterns. You are holding [00:19:00] tension in your body. It could be physically, it could be, you know, emotionally, mentally, spiritually on a soul based level. It can be in all different ways. Right. And in different parts of our body, it just needs the unwinding.
It just needs this. Space for it to unwind on itself. And when that safe space is provided for you, your body naturally knows what to do. This is what blew me with this word blew me. God, I should change the way I'm speaking. I didn't get blown in Melbourne.
Damn.
But it did the way bloomy. It blew me away. Just because your body naturally knows what to do. So anyway, I went to Melbourne, I studied this, I bloody loved it. It was a life changing time. It really was because while we're learning the modality, Which is a lot, it's a lot to learn. Don't get me wrong.
Like it's not just all just energy movie, you know? And you're not just. Making shit up. Like there's six different [00:20:00] processes to a level one spinal energetics practitioner. There's six different processes. You do a physical test on someone's body. So they lay there and you actually measure their leg length.
You, you measure the difference in the Achilles tension in both the legs. You. Measure, like you pull their legs up to a 90 degree angle and see are they even, is one, you know, taller than the other, all that kind of stuff. Right? Like it's, as I said, very chiropractic based, but you don't have to be a chiropractor to actually learn it.
So there's. It's not just guessing like your body, your body, let's say you're laying in front of me. Your body would be able to tell me so much about you without you speaking, without you even speaking, I can tell. Now that I've learned it. You know, maybe you're holding tension on your, on your father's side or your mother's side, like on the male masculine side or the feminine side. Maybe you are holding tension more in the heart, which tells me X, Y, Z, maybe you're holding more tension in the neck, which tells me maybe you're a type, a personality.
Maybe you're an overthinker. Maybe you're prone to getting headaches.
[00:21:00] Like, maybe you have a bit of neck, tension and insomnia. Maybe you are the type that is wired, but tired. Right? This, this all comes from just feeling in different parts of your body. It's. It's it blew. It blew my mind. I'm going to stop saying that. But. What does this all help with? It helps to actually, as I said, Amway intention patterns in our body, but this affects us physically, emotionally, spiritually, mentally, like all different ways.
So this, this is a way. To actually help to unwind trauma that is stored in our bodies tension that is stored in our bodies stories that are stored in our bodies. and one of the things that like I seriously loved about it, it was just like, think of it this way. So life can leave marks on all of us, depending on what we've been through.
It can be heartbreak, it can be grief. It can be. Loss and pain. Right. And we've all walked different paths. We've all had different human experiences. And sometimes we just don't want to talk about the raw stuff. Sometimes we don't have the capacity to even discuss the [00:22:00] painful stuff. The unspoken. Stuff.
Right. And. This work, doesn't erase the stories. It's not like, oh, you know, you go into a spinal energetic session, having all these stories and all this lived experience and all this stuff from the past, or that's going on in your life right now and now, oh, I've done a spinal energetics session and now it's all gone.
Right? Like those stories are gone and none of that ever happened. I'm just imagining it all. No, the story is still. Are there
it's just that now. With our body being able to naturally unwind those tension patterns and start to some people would call it heal. I just I'm avoiding that word because that makes it sound like something's wrong with us and nothing's wrong. But you know, in a spinal energetic session, what is happening is. You know, we are now shifting how we carry those stories and how we view. The past. That is shifting for us naturally without us having to talk about it. And because when we actually change. Like our perspective on our life [00:23:00] experiences. It actually changes the impact that that then has on our body, on our physical body.
I genuinely don't think that to heal. You have to release the past or forget about the past. I. Look, this is just from my own experience. I don't think that actually happens. I don't think that you forget things from your past. It's not about forgetting and pretending. this is where. I think it does turn into like spiritual bypassing of like, oh, kumbaya.
Everything's sweet. That's that's not really. The human existence. That's not really this human experience here in life. Like we don't get. Training before we come into this life of like, we know what to do and how to navigate it. It, it can be so fucking raw and so real and so painful. And you can experience the highest of highs and the lowest of lows all at once in a short amount of time in your life.
I don't think that the life is about forgetting. I don't think that at all. But I do think [00:24:00] that if we're living in the stories constantly, then that is bringing harm to us. And I think that part of life and part of healing, again, for lack of a better word is. Being able to integrate and move forward with, with less friction and with less tension going on in our actual bodies.
So, this is one of the things that drew me to spinal energetics.
It's it's efficient as fuck. Like it is an efficient modality. It seriously, is it? Yeah, it's very, very efficient. It can get to the root cause. But it's our, body's doing it again. It's not someone healing us. It's not, you know, conjuring spirits or, you know, pulling someone else's energy into our body.
It's nothing like that. It's literally our innate intelligence kicking into gear. Because the space has been provided for that to happen. And those tension patterns are able to start to unwind. It's it's like an unwinding. You feel it in your body. So to not make this episode too long where too, from here.
So. [00:25:00]
To from here. That is a great question currently. I am not offering the sessions live to the general public. I mean. I'm balls deep in practice mode. Let's be honest. I am just practicing on friends, family at the moment. I am really wanting to master this craft as best that I can just to be able to. Help to facilitate the best experience for my clients.
Efficiency is big for me because T. To be able to provide one of the best experiences for my clients. I think like you want to have tangible. Changes you want to not just go to someone and just, it's all just fluffy nonsense over the top spiritual gimmicks and you just get no tangible results from it.
Right? You want to actually feel differences, whether it's in your body. In your mind, your mindset in your life in general, right? And this kind of work can help with chronic pain. It can help with anxiety. It can help with. Relationship [00:26:00] breakdowns, trauma, heartbreak, loss, grief, like all of the things it can help with sleep.
It can help with just say physical pains, like so much stuff. It meets you right where you're at. And that's what I love about it. So right now, I, as I said i'm balls, deep in practice mode. You know, I have people that have been saying practice on me, practice somebody practice on me. So I am literally doing that.
I went and got a massage table. I am just practicing. And then in the new year, be that January or February, I'm not quite sure yet I will launch it to the general public. And the cool thing about it is. I'm going to be offering in-person and also online. So in-person. Is really cool. Love it. And that's one of the things when I was in Melbourne originally, I thought I was just solely going to do this online, but being in person, experiencing it for myself in person and being with other people, I was like, oh my God, I need to touch humans. I need to feel humans.
I need that human. Experience of being in person. It's just beautiful, but [00:27:00] you can get the same experience online. I have experienced that for myself. So yeah, lots to come. I'm going to be offering this as a modality. So I'm going to be starting up services again soon. Will I offer root cause therapy.
I'm not sure I've been asked that and I'm actually not sure. I may eventually create a package that is, you know, a few modalities all intertwined into one. Where maybe, you know, one session it's root cause therapy, another session at spinal energetics, maybe, I don't know, at the moment I'm solely going to be focusing on spinal energetics, just because I really do love the efficiency of it.
And. The timeframe of it. You know, like a session, probably be 45 minutes. Whereas with root cause therapy, they tend to be around an hour and a half. They, I tended to spend with clients each session. So. Yeah. Watch this space. So we more to come. I absolutely want, as I said to get Dr. Sarah Jane to come on the podcast, I want to talk to her. She's the least spiritual, woo woo person. That [00:28:00] I've possibly met. That is like me, right. We're open to esoteric where right in there in the esoteric world, but at the same time, We don't act like we're part of a spiritual cult.
We don't feel like we have to go and do all the different spiritual things that everyone seems to think you have to do to come off as a spiritual, like. I, yeah. And I'm not dissing those things like to give you context, I've never burnt Sage or was it pat? Hello scent. I can't even say the bloody word, Palo Santo pallet, whatever that one is.
Never burned that in my life. Am I against it? No, I just think, I don't know what the crap I need to burn it for. So why would I burn it just cause from spiritual gurus, do I don't give a damn I don't. I've never been to a psychic. Am I against psychics? No, I just. I'm funny at. Getting guidance or knowledge from someone. Outside of myself, unless I know them very, very well.
Right. And I have to really respect how they live their lives and how they lead their lives. Right. So I would rather have a coach. I've got a coach, [00:29:00] Breanna May. She's a bloody legend. And you know, someone like my older brother, I. You know, we'd go to him for guidance rather than a psychic. That's just me personally.
I'm not against them. I've just never been to one. I am not into witchcraft. I'm not into. A lot of stuff that goes with that. I don't dress like I'm in a cult. Like, look at me right now. I'm let me stand up. God, my chair's making noise. Oh, actually that reminds me. I need to show you my sunburn.
Hang on. Let me just show you this for a second. I'm literally in gym clothes right now. I got. Terribly sunburn. You have to say this. Do not recommend. Yes. Can you see the, the, what. Can you see that? Yeah, don't do this. Don't be an idiot here in Australia and get, put it to that extreme. What I'm trying to say is I'm just normal bloody chick.
I'm not here dressing, like I'm in a cult thinking I have to dress in all the overly, overly spiritual clothing and wear all the millions of beads. And I don't know where a feather head dress. I don't even know. What's [00:30:00] cool. These days in spiritual. I just don't think that you have to turn into something that you're not just because you might hold similar belief systems.
So. Yeah. Anyway. Sarah Jane is a bloody legend. She's yeah. Very much in the esoterics, but very grounded as a human. And that's what I'm drawn to in people. They're open to. Spiritual concepts and big philosophical questions in life. Like I love those conversations, but they're also grounded as a human.
They haven't lost. Contact with. Earth, right. They're not that far out there that you can't even have a normal conversation with them anymore. Like yeah. I'm drawn to people like that. Anyway, I'm rambling. So where to from here services will open soon. I'm going to try and get Dr. Sarah Jane on the podcast. I will talk more about this right now.
I feel like I'm rambling. I'm just excited to talk to you guys. So, yeah. Welcome back. This is not a highly controversial conversation. It's just [00:31:00] more of a catch up where the crap have I been and we're back to regular programming legends. I love you guts as always. And we will chat soon. Bye.
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